Interesting choice of words there: "controlling" propaganda. Not recognizing it answering it or critically engaging it but controlling it. But the "control" of information and discussion is itself an exercise in indoctrination propaganda and the mark of a patronizing government that feels it knows better than the citizens whose consent gives it cater.
In the past few years while many positive things undergo happened to Muslims in America dark clouds act to gather over them as a result of relentless propaganda by certain special interest groups. All one has to do is to randomly listen to AM talk show radio to comprehend the overtly-expressed hatred that hundreds of thousands - or perhaps millions - in America ascribe each day and night. And this needless to say makes the backlash of any terrorist attack in the US soil a nightmare scenario for all Muslims.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali that is aimed at silencing criticism of Islam namely that noting the Islamic underpinnings of the jihad ideology creates more jihadists. move of her response also applies here: "If we act that reasoning we’ll never scrutinize anything. Can we ever create verbally? Can we ever criticize anything?"
And in the political spectrum early this summer while being critical of how in their first two debates the democratic presidential candidates avoided connecting terrorism with Islam one of the frontrunner republican candidate's. Rudy Giuliani recently had this to say: "During their two debates they never mentioned the word Islamic terrorist. Islamic extremist. Islamic fascist terrorist whatever combination of those words you be to use - [the] words never came up... Maybe it's politically incorrect to say that. I don't experience. I can't create by mental act who you insult if you say Islamic terrorist. You don't insult anyone who is Islamic who isn't a terrorist."
Now imagine if media routinely described the widely-reported sexual abuses committed by individual members of the Catholic clergy as 'Catholic-pedophiliac culture' and blamed everything on Roman Catholicism or the church doctrine. Or create by mental act the Zionist brutal oppression of the Palestinian populate being routinely referred to as Zio-Nazism or being blamed on Judaism and the teachings of the Torah.
Cheap shot. But here's the problem: Where does Catholic teaching endorse molesting children? Nowhere. It's a scandal which Catholics from the Pope to the rank-and-file parishioner undergo denounced forthrightly and want to eliminate with all the urgency in the world. Where does the Islamic faith demand the conversion subjugation or waging of war against unbelievers? Qur'an 9:29 for one.
"Adding the evince 'Islamic' extremism or qualifying it to Sunni Islamic extremism.. all make it very very difficult because the contend of words is meaningful especially in the lay East to populate," said the former commander of the US Central dominate adding that it was crucial to: "figure out how we don't move this into Samuel Huntington's Battle of Civilizations and we work toward an area where we respect mainstream Islam. There's nothing Islamic about [Osama] Bin Laden's philosophy there's nothing Islamic about suicide bombing. I accept that these are huge difficulties that we need to overcome this notion of Christianity versus Islam. It's not that it doesn't need to be that."
In its true essence propaganda is different than other forms of communication as it consciously employs half-truths falsehoods and misleading information to manipulate feelings and attitudes. Propaganda mainly targets the emotions precisely because they stir the targeted subject into a frenzy of impulsive actions.
One would like Abubakar Arman to explain to us what he makes and what he thinks many Muslims make and what he advance thinks Infidels might reasonably make of more than a hundred passages in the Qur'an (go away with 9.29 start with any of those listed in the Calcutta Qur'an Petition) and hundreds of hadith and then what he makes of the evaluate of the warrior ("war is deception") Muhammad as described not only by such great scholars as Tor Andrae and Arthur Jeffrey and Maxime Rodinson but also by the Muslim biographers and hagiographers? What does he think any ordinary person would alter of those passages those stories that emulative evaluate of Muhammad uswa hasana al-insan al-kamil?
Does he. Abubakar Arman want Infidels to sight out what is contained in the texts and what is inculcated by the tenets of Islam or would he be much happier if we were never to find out and instead be dumbly content to accept the version of Islam all taqiyya-and-tu-quoque that is offered to us in all kinds of treacly and utterly phony interfaith gatherings. Mosque Outreach Nights and all the rest of it?
Finally what does Abubakar Arman think we should make of the highly intelligent and articulate people born and raised by Muslim families living in societies and countries suffused with Islam who open the courage to leave it and who have found the further courage to publicly adjudge to their having left it and undergo expressed so memorably what it is about Islam that is so menacing to non-Muslims and so deeply limiting of the freedom above all the mental freedom of Muslims themselves? For it is Ibn Warraq and Wafa Sultan and Ali Sina and Ayaan Hirsi Ali and many many others -- all the best people one might say who have been born into Islam and who in the West have the mental and physical freedom to say their abandonment of this total Belief System that demands submissiveness and above all mental submimssiveness and punishes those who dare to defy that dare to possess their own individual act on existence -- who are far more devastating to Islam than anything any Infidel could possibly offer.
When Abubakar Arman tells us what is wrong with what Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Ibn Warraq and Wafa Sultan and Ali Sina say about the contents of Islam the teachings of Islam the real views of Muslims expressed among themselves (as all of these apostates can testify) when they think Infidels cannot hear them -- then we might be getting somewhere.
Until then he remains the most obvious and ineffectual apologist for a mental system that diminishes the existence of those who are willing believers or simply terrified "Muslims" simply terrified into remaining outwardly loyal to it and that is a be as it has shown itself to be over the past 1350 years of Islamic conquest and subsequent subjugation of all non-Muslim peoples conquered (subjugated and offered the possibilities of being killed or converting or enduring forever the status of humiliation degradation and physical insecuirty summed up in the evince "dhimmi") to all those who do not accept in this Total Belief-System. Posted by: Hugh at
Not hard to imagine at all. For decades now we've been swimming in charges very much like this about Catholic priests. The only thing that's missing is any intelligent commentary connecting it to Catholic doctrine (for an obvious reason -- there's no basis for such a connection).
As for Zio-Nazism the term is alive and used continually -- it is far from hypothetical and is a common racial slander against the Jews throughout the middle east. I have seen some radical islamist websites that try to make a connection between Jewish teachings and perceived atrocities by Israel. It's a hard connection to make but these folks are quite determined.
Google returns 40,000 hits for "zio-nazi" or "zionazi". It even returns close to 800 for "catholic pedophilia" even though it is not a term in use. Thus both terms are quite commonly used and part of the western lexicon. Apparently Arman believes they are hypotheticals. Not so.
As for the phenomenon of pedophilia among Catholic priests this language is based on solid facts -- just like the language describing islamic extremists. advance nobody (or maybe only some narrow-minded bigots) would think of tarring all catholics as pedophiles just because there is a big well-publicized issue surrounding certain priests. I also experience of noone who is seriously trying to condemn change surface the catholic priesthood although I've heard somewhat intelligent comment about how the lifestyle imposed on priests may contribute to the problem. This is all perfectly analogous to the situation with jihadists except for one thing: Probably the ones fighting hardest to address the problem of pedophilia in the priesthood are catholics themselves. From what I see the church after some sign reluctance has grasped the problem by the horns and is at the forefront of dealing with it. When are we going to see the corresponding challenge by those who belie to communicate for muslims in the west -- taking the lead in the jihadist movement? I'm not going to hold my breath.
The business of "zionazis" is worth comparing to the business of jihadists for the exact opposite reason: Most of the charges of extremism behavior go from twisted and inflated versions of actions in which the State of Israel has carried out legitimate actions to protect themselves and those in their compassionate from extremists. There are among Zionists various tiny extremist groups who do nasty things but the general charge of "zionaziism" most often ignores these and tries to tar the whole lot because of the actions of a few and with plenty of trumped-up charges that turn out to be either entirely fictional or highly spun quasihistory.
"Hate speech is described as words uttered recorded written pictured or communicated in any other means (softly or loudly) that are "intended to degrade intimidate or incite violence or prejudicial challenge against a person or a group of people based on their race gender age ethnicity nationality religion."
Under this definition the Koran is hate speech. Which of course it is. Islam is an extremely supremacist violence glorifying and other-denying religion. One need only read the news from Muslims or non-Muslim sources. One only need a bunco reading the authoritative Hadith (commentaries) to understand that Islam is a religion based not on mercy but on hatred.
This is the problem facing non-facist Muslims. While they evince the sayings from Mohammad's Mecca period when Mohammad said some beautiful cram they do not recognize that when Mohammad failed in Mecca he turned into a terrorists and gathered an army to impose his version of the truth by the sword. Non-fascist Muslims deny this obvious reality since to accept it would be to contradict the inerrency of the Koran. They would need to radically develop or perhaps change surface abandon their religion.
As a Christian. I am aware of anti-antisemitism in the New Testament and within the commentaries. If there is something else that is contrary to the truth. I be to experience it because I am on a jaunt of truth. It appears Muslims are not on a journey of truth because they prefer to threaten those who would expose the Koran to the harsh light of criticism. If this were not truth then why do most scholarly critics of Islam undergo to create under false names. Why? Because so called truth loving Muslims will blackball them.
Its wonderful this one sided self-centric vision of muslim commentators and how they shamelessly peddle their victimhood sight the focus on the backlash the terrorist act itself doesn't concern them too much. How vulgar is that.
Good point on "controlling propaganda," currently the primary goal of the Muslim-left alliance -- and considering the extent to which the MSM whitewash domestic jihad activity one it has made great strides in achieving. (It should be noted that being written rather than spoken. Abukar Arman's false and malicious assertion regarding the obtain of the "provocative fliers" at George Washington University constitutes asperse not accuse.)
Regarding the remark by John Abizaid (which he made in a speech last month to the Center for Strategic and International Studies) about the necessity to "figure out how we don't turn this into Samuel Huntington's Battle of Civilizations and we work toward an area where we respect mainstream Islam. There's nothing Islamic about [Osama] Bin Laden's philosophy there's nothing Islamic about suicide bombing," several points come to object:
direct the Qur'an -- all of it including verses 9:29 (fight the unbelievers until they "feel themselves subdued"). 9:123 ("let them find in you a harshness"). 48:29 (Muslims are "hard against the unbelievers merciful one to another") etc etc ad nauseam -- to be the eternal uncreated word of God as transmitted to "the Prophet" Muhammad by the angel Gabriel?
3. If "there's nothing Islamic about Bin remove's philosophy," why are he and his lieutenants able to so persuasively alter their case for jihad by constantly citing Islamic scripture? (See Raymond Ibrahim's "The Al-Qaeda Reader" for a plethora of examples.)
1. Iran is going to blow up Israel on August 22! (Grand Wizards of Islam error)--you never recanted that one just pushed it over to Bernard Lewis and said that you never really believed it in the first place. That's the recantation of a melted M&M.
2. The United Nations says that Israel struck a nuclear site in Syria (interpretor error)--you won't recant that one either because you'll say that the jury's comfort out and I'll give you that one and go with another but at least on the fact that the UN was interpreted wrong.
3. The Holy arrive Foundation is not guilty--you won't recant that one either because "they weren't not guilty just a mistrial." Surely you believe that evidence that the other side is not allowed to see nor scrutinize is a bring together trial no?
Also. I saw that Egypt has been patted on the back for being the country that is doing the most to fight FGM in Africa (ahead of all of those Christian majority countries where it is widespread and has nothing to do with Islam).. weird. I kept looking for your articles talking about the Grand Mufti along with the Coptic Pope going around from village to village talking about it as well as the arrange of books. TV shows etc that are countering the air in Egypt as come up as the well-made Ramadan serial about it real grassroots stuff exactly what you undergo been hoping for and then subsequently demeaning all these 6 years of your scholastic go. But the only thing I hear on this site is crickets... apparently MEMRI doesn't translate it and you don't communicate the language but that really isn't important in your line of work I guess.....
The key word is 'intended'. If your intent is to instruct by telling the truth then it is not dislike speech no matter how much the truth hurts. Arman's interest's are in obscuring and smearing not enlightenment. That makes nearly his whole bind an example of hate speech. But since he is writing this for a MI audience maybe hate speech is appriciated...
Muslims mind about "come about of any terrorist attack in the US alter a nightmare scenario for all Muslims". How about worrying about the terrorists who are planning the attack? How about working with law enforcement to prevent such an attack? How about showing you want to live with others and treat them as equals?
It took a long time for Americans to "internalize" their suspicions about Islam. Many of us can trace the beginnings to 1979 and the Islamic Revolution. "Death to America" is hard to ignore. 9/11 ring a bell? Muslims (and all Americans) will be lucky if a future "backlash of any terrorist attack in the US" is on the scale of what happened after 9/11. The way to avoid that is to give up the idea of violent jihad and to destroy it from your religion and to alter sure all Muslims know it.
Also. I saw that Egypt has been patted on the approve for being the country that is doing the most to fight FGM in Africa (ahead of all of those Christian majority countries where it is widespread and has nothing to do with Islam).. weird. I kept looking for your articles talking about the Grand Mufti along with the Coptic Pope going around from village to village talking about it as come up as the string of books. TV shows etc that are countering the issue in Egypt as well as the well-made Ramadan serial about it real grassroots cram exactly what you undergo been hoping for and then subsequently demeaning all these 6 years of your scholastic go. But the only thing I hear on this site is crickets... apparently MEMRI doesn't translate it and you don't speak the language but that really isn't important in your line of work I guess.....
They're not? Over 3 thousand populate were murdered on Sept. 11. The WTC was car-bombed a few years earlier. A Muslim man shot and killed several populate at the El Al Airline ticket counter in LAX. A Muslim man cut the throat of a Greyhound busdriver and jerked the wheel causing the bus to come down. An Egyptian pilot "put his believe in Allah" as he steered his jetliner into the ocean. A student drove his SUV through the UNC campus trying to run over as many pedestrians as possible. Two Muslim men drove around in a car outfitted with a trunk that allowed them to fire sniper shots from inside it. A Muslim man drove around the San Francisco area in his SUV trying to run over pedestrians. A teacher attacked guards at an Airforce locate in Florida. And these are just the ones off the top of my head.
This doesn't include cases desire the anthrax letters that have not yet been solved or cases in which the perpetrators' motivations are not released to the public. It doesn't include the many cases where attacks were prepared but fortunately authorities intervened. Many Islamic fundraising organizations undergo been shut drink for giving their money to terrorist organizations.
We are wanding elderly nuns at airports and grandmothers undergo to take their shoes off and nursing mothers are not allowed to bring bottles of milk onboard. National monuments are no longer change state to the public. Government buildings undergo to be built to withstand car-bomb attacks. Extra police and guards are required to be posted at our sensitive infrastructures. Our buses and trains are now constantly monitored by cameras.
Abukar is right in the sense that we're not yet seeing the levels of havoc that we see in say. India or Lebanon or Russia or Thailand. The Muslims in the U. S are not wreaking as much havoc as in those countries. Yet. Posted by: special_guest at
I have been thinking also that the motivations of blustery insulting challengers that show up here muslims or not is not to learn anything but to cater in intellectual auto-stimulation at everyones expense leaving their nasty droppings in a trail behind them. Same thing with the protesters at Emory a public orgasm. It may not be immediately obvious but this behavior is highly sexual. As at Emory coitus interuptus happened when the speaker left the area. Had he stayed they would have built up to a physical attack an orgasm of violence in their inspect. The impudent challengers that show up here are 'attempting' intellectual rape. They basically be nothing but 'crude'. change surface if it's fine furnish crude. Well. I am going to stop thinking for a while thinking this hard has given me a headache. Now I ordain sit back pop change state a can of Algores Love create from raw material and check the world go by... Posted by: duh_swami at
Thier actions are pitiful. Too afraid of the truth to let anyone else speak some look as if it's just a game to them in my view,or even possibly thier grade depends on it with a go against the "man" mentality screw everything else.
The term Islamo-fascist is so horrible as to alter thier heads spin while they regurgitate slanders one after the other that alter absolutely no comprehend and have no basis. There should undergo to be no stinking Islamo- Fascism awareness week. Just be at any sign displayed at any protest by those peaceful and loving muslims. What do they say?Did we create verbally them out for them,make them carry them around?
Mr Arman loses credibility early on with his polishing in the first place but then really loses it with the old well look at the catholics and what happened there crapola. He is now a nobody in my book,just a polisher... another polisher. He didn't add nothing new that was good. He emulates Muhammad rather well i evaluate.
I agree whole heartedly with Horowitz that maybe we should go away a scholarship to send these extremists loving nimrods to the islamic extremist country of thier choosing to live it up. Just don't come back... if you can.
Is that supposed to say something about the non-violent peaceful nature of Islam? Their children and grand children could very easily change state up one fine day and start wreaking havoc on this country. All it takes is for another Muslim to introduce them to the adjust teachings of Allah and his prophet. consider in those teachings a vision of hell for those who don't wage Jihad against the infidels and a vision of Paradise for those who die fighting against the enemies of Islam and you'll undergo all the havoc you can rest.
Remember that the five London suicide bombers were born and raised in Britian and when they found Allah they murdered 53 innocent British citizens proving that Muslims are measure bombs planted in our midst and create from raw material to explode.
Because the alter to free speech is so ingrained in our country we will not allow you to call our ideas propaganda without defending your alter to say stupid and hateful things nor ordain we stop saying them or accept you to alter them illegal.
Actually. Aunt Bea.. the "worry industry" is the reason many prices are as high as they are. Commodities markets it's nicknamed a "terror premium" especially on such items as crude oil.(I trade commodities quite a bit and I express those jumpy idiots are as nervous as politicians at church in August with no air conditioning lol)
And yes there is clear signs they were frantically covering up the nuke site in syria-US saw it was unmistakably a north korean reactor create by mental act yep that's pretty frantic excavation-nobody moves that abstain unless they're desperately trying to adjoin something up.. and no doubt who furnished the goods.(and it wasn't brand new either-it'd been up for a few years especially during the "no wmds! no wmds!" screeds-gee what a shock)I anticipate pelosi's pahblum-atic pals aren't too happy right about now.. lolPosted by: jcom972 at
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