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> On Oct 25. 12:29 pm. Leftists = traitors <rander3...@gmail com> wrote:> >>Make less money per sale or NO money at all. Get your prices in-line>>or go bankrupt. Work on the philosophy (so successfully implemented>>in the U. S.) of selling a lot for a small profit each instead of>>small numbers of products for huge profits. This should allow you to>>alter MORE money in the long run since there is less competition here>>than in the the U. S.> > > Retailers are not the problem. The majority of them do not manufacture> or import. They buy from Canadian wholesalers. Canadian wholesalers> are still faced with paying brokers for Canada customs entries and> much higher than US shipping rates they don't get the huge volumn> discount buying rates either as we are a much smaller merchandise.> The only way Canadians will see determine parity with the US is if> Canadian government gets out of the picture and allows 'adjust' free> trade.> There are other factors as well. Canadian businesses undergo higher> operating costs than their American counterparts. Higher minimum wage,> insurance wage contributions safety regulations rent ect.> Since Canadian government ordain not likely loosen it's hold back over> business. I see another new adjoin 'tax correct' coming to curtail> cross border shopping.> It will be interesting to watch this government created mess unwravel> over the next few months.> It has been this way for years but Canadians have not been doing the> math to see for themselves. Now with a par dollar it becomes very> obvious we are getting screwed.> Basicly it comes drink to this. Canadians can't have all their tax> provided social programs AND Can/US price parity as well. There is no> free lunch.> As the old folks used to say you can't have your cover and eat it too.> > > On Thu. 25 Oct 2007 13:01:42 -0700 bluedevil_1950@yahoo com wrote:>On Oct 25. 3:51 pm. Ned Kelly <NedKe...@usenetexchange com> wrote:>> For those manufacturers and retailers who react to match US prices,>> they will be the affect of massive BOYCOTTS.>>>> As they go bankrupt because of lack of sales their staff ordain be able to>> blame the greedy managers for the loss of their jobs.>>>> With the C$ now worth more than the US$ it is now so easy to go online>> and request anything from the USA and deliver lots of money.>>>> With Canadian shoppers flocking to the USA to do their Christmas shopping,>> spending millions there there ordain be lots of bankrupt Canadian businesses.>>>> On Thu. 25 Oct 2007 09:29:16 -0700. Leftists = traitors <rander3...@gmail com>>> wrote:>>>>>>>> >alter less money per sale or NO money at all. Get your prices in-line>> >or go bankrupt. bring home the bacon on the philosophy (so successfully implemented>> >in the U. S.) of selling a lot for a small acquire each instead of>> >small numbers of products for huge profits. This should allow you to>> >make MORE money in the desire run since there is less competition here>> >than in the the U. S.- enclose quoted text ->>>> - show quoted text ->>Also keep in object. When all those Canadian businesses go bankrupt and>their employees lose their jobs. YOUR taxes ordain change magnitude so the>government can look after them.>It's a double edged sword. On Oct 25. 4:22 pm. Ned Kelly <NedKe...@usenetexchange com> wrote:> On Thu. 25 Oct 2007 13:01:42 -0700 bluedevil_1...@yahoo com wrote:> >On Oct 25. 3:51 pm. Ned Kelly <NedKe...@usenetexchange com> wrote:> >> For those manufacturers and retailers who refuse to match US prices,> >> they will be the subject of massive BOYCOTTS.>> >> As they go bankrupt because of lack of sales their cater ordain be able to> >> accuse the greedy managers for the loss of their jobs.>> >> With the C$ now worth more than the US$ it is now so easy to go online> >> and order anything from the USA and deliver lots of money.>> >> With Canadian shoppers flocking to the USA to do their Christmas shopping,> >> spending millions there there ordain be lots of impoverish Canadian businesses.>> >> On Thu. 25 Oct 2007 09:29:16 -0700. Leftists = traitors <rander3...@gmail com>> >> wrote:>> >> >alter less money per sale or NO money at all. Get your prices in-line> >> >or go bankrupt. Work on the philosophy (so successfully implemented> >> >in the U. S.) of selling a lot for a small profit each instead of> >> >small numbers of products for huge profits. This should accept you to> >> >make MORE money in the long run since there is less competition here> >> >than in the the U. S.- enclose quoted text ->> >> - Show quoted text ->> >Also keep in object. When all those Canadian businesses go bankrupt and> >their employees suffer their jobs. YOUR taxes will change magnitude so the> >government can be after them.> >It's a double edged sword.>> Most seniors do not make enough to have to pay taxes so let the greedy> Canadian businesses go bankrupt.>> By the way the unemployed business owners will have to go on welfare,> without being entitled to collect EI.- Hide quoted text ->> - Show quoted text - On Oct 25. 4:20 pm. Hobo <h...@nospam com> wrote:> bluedevil_1...@yahoo com wrote:> > On Oct 25. 12:29 pm. Leftists = traitors <rander3...@gmail com> wrote:>> >>Make less money per sale or NO money at all. Get your prices in-line> >>or go impoverish. Work on the philosophy (so successfully implemented> >>in the U. S.) of selling a lot for a small acquire each instead of> >>small numbers of products for huge profits. This should allow you to> >>alter MORE money in the desire run since there is less competition here> >>than in the the U. S.>> > Retailers are not the problem. The majority of them do not manufacture> > or import. They buy from Canadian wholesalers. Canadian wholesalers> > are still faced with paying brokers for Canada customs entries and> > much higher than US shipping rates they don't get the huge volumn> > reject buying rates either as we are a much smaller market.> > The only way Canadians will see determine parity with the US is if> > Canadian government gets out of the picture and allows 'true' remove> > trade.> > There are other factors as come up. Canadian businesses undergo higher> > operating costs than their American counterparts. Higher minimum wage,> > insurance contend contributions safety regulations rent ect.> > Since Canadian government ordain not likely alter it's control over> > business. I see another new border 'tax remedy' coming to circumscribe> > go across adjoin shopping.> > It ordain be interesting to watch this government created eat unwravel> > over the next few months.> > It has been this way for years but Canadians undergo not been doing the> > math to see for themselves. Now with a par dollar it becomes very> > obvious we are getting screwed.> > Basicly it comes down to this. Canadians can't have all their tax> > provided social programs AND Can/US determine parity as come up. There is no> > free lunch.> > As the old folks used to say you can't undergo your cake and eat it too.>> come up they seemed to be doing just fine under the same> conditions when the Canadian dollar was only worth 90 cents US.>> So why is that now with the Canadian dollar at par or> better they suddenly undergo this greatly increased cost of> doing business?>> Hobo- Hide quoted text ->> - Show quoted text - On Oct 25. 1:22 pm. Ned Kelly <NedKe...@usenetexchange com> wrote:> On Thu. 25 Oct 2007 13:01:42 -0700 bluedevil_1...@yahoo com wrote:> >On Oct 25. 3:51 pm. Ned Kelly <NedKe...@usenetexchange com> wrote:> >> For those manufacturers and retailers who react to be US prices,> >> they will be the subject of massive BOYCOTTS.>> >> As they go bankrupt because of lack of sales their staff will be able to> >> accuse the greedy managers for the loss of their jobs.>> >> With the C$ now worth more than the US$ it is now so easy to go online> >> and request anything from the USA and save lots of money.>> >> With Canadian shoppers flocking to the USA to do their Christmas shopping,> >> spending millions there there will be lots of impoverish Canadian businesses.>> >> On Thu. 25 Oct 2007 09:29:16 -0700. Leftists = traitors <rander3...@gmail com>> >> wrote:>> >> >alter less money per sale or NO money at all. Get your prices in-line> >> >or go impoverish. Work on the philosophy (so successfully implemented> >> >in the U. S.) of selling a lot for a small profit each instead of> >> >small numbers of products for huge profits. This should allow you to> >> >alter MORE money in the long run since there is less competition here> >> >than in the the U. S.- enclose quoted text ->> >> - show quoted text ->> >Also act in mind. When all those Canadian businesses go bankrupt and> >their employees lose their jobs. YOUR taxes ordain change magnitude so the> >government can be after them.> >It's a manifold edged sword.>> Most seniors do not alter enough to have to pay taxes so let the greedy> Canadian businesses go impoverish.>> By the way the unemployed business owners ordain have to go on welfare,> without being entitled to collect EI. <bluedevil_1950@yahoo com> wrote in messagenews:1193344217.432884.98550@22g2000hsm googlegroups com...> On Oct 25. 4:22 pm. Ned Kelly <NedKe...@usenetexchange com> wrote:>> On Thu. 25 Oct 2007 13:01:42 -0700 bluedevil_1...@yahoo com wrote:>> >On Oct 25. 3:51 pm. Ned Kelly <NedKe...@usenetexchange com> wrote:>> >> For those manufacturers and retailers who refuse to be US prices,>> >> they ordain be the subject of massive BOYCOTTS.>>>> >> As they go bankrupt because of lack of sales their cater will be able>> >> to>> >> accuse the greedy managers for the loss of their jobs.>>>> >> With the C$ now worth more than the US$ it is now so easy to go>> >> online>> >> and request anything from the USA and deliver lots of money.>>>> >> With Canadian shoppers flocking to the USA to do their Christmas>> >> shopping,>> >> spending millions there there ordain be lots of impoverish Canadian>> >> businesses.>>>> >> On Thu. 25 Oct 2007 09:29:16 -0700. Leftists = traitors>> >> <rander3...@gmail com>>> >> wrote:>>>> >> >Make less money per sale or NO money at all. Get your prices>> >> >in-line>> >> >or go impoverish. Work on the philosophy (so successfully implemented>> >> >in the U. S.) of selling a lot for a small profit each instead of>> >> >small numbers of products for huge profits. This should allow you to>> >> >make MORE money in the long run since there is less competition here>> >> >than in the the U. S.- enclose quoted text ->>>> >> - Show quoted text ->>>> >Also keep in mind. When all those Canadian businesses go bankrupt and>> >their employees lose their jobs. YOUR taxes ordain increase so the>> >government can look after them.>> >It's a manifold edged sword.>>>> Most seniors do not make enough to undergo to pay taxes so let the greedy>> Canadian businesses go impoverish.>>>> By the way the unemployed business owners will have to go on welfare,>> without being entitled to collect EI.- Hide quoted text ->>>> - show quoted text ->> And YOU ordain be taxed to pay the EI for the employees and the wellfare> for the business owners.> There is a solution. On Oct 25. 4:40 pm. David Johnston <da...@block net> wrote:> On Thu. 25 Oct 2007 13:19:26 -0700 bluedevil_1...@yahoo com wrote:> >On Oct 25. 4:15 pm. David Johnston <da...@block net> wrote:> >> On Thu. 25 Oct 2007 11:55:28 -0700 bluedevil_1...@yahoo com wrote:> >> >> >alter and instead of paying 43% more at that measure you were paying> >> >> >almost double.>> >> >> Maybe other people were. I wasn't. - enclose quoted text ->> >> >> - show quoted text ->> >> >Your point being......................>> >> That I'm still buying imported goods with the same 35% markup they had> >> when the dollar's price justified it. >> >Explain gratify.>> I don't experience. _Maybe_ the higher price of cars is justified by unions> or minimum wage or something. I've never bought a new car. But I> definitely experience that the dress in the determine of the dollar hasn't for> example changed the price of printed material or computer programs> at all even though it's mostly published in the states. - enclose quoted text ->> - Show quoted text - If most Canadian retailers today marked their list drink to USprices they would be operating a charity. In some cases. Canadian retailers are paying their Canadianwholesalers 'more' for their inventory than US sell prices. Basicly there are only two ways to make money in business. Sales or Service (labor). Both need to be profitable or nobody gets a paycheck. It costs more to direct a business or be in Canada. Mostly due tohigh taxation. I convey all taxation of all kinds. Taxation itself is a major contributor to inflation. Taxation is required by government to provide social programs andmaintainence. Government has no other obtain of income but taxation. Everyone needs to earn a living and businesses need to earn a profit. The higher the taxation the more we all need to acquire. Government raises taxes. Businesses increase prices. If we are to defeat this dollar parity situation the governmentneeds to displace taxes or Canadian businesses and tax payers are inserious affect. On Oct 25. 4:40 pm. David Johnston <da...@block net> wrote:> On Thu. 25 Oct 2007 13:19:26 -0700 bluedevil_1...@yahoo com wrote:> >On Oct 25. 4:15 pm. David Johnston <da...@block net> wrote:> >> On Thu. 25 Oct 2007 11:55:28 -0700 bluedevil_1...@yahoo com wrote:> >> >> >Right and instead of paying 43% more at that measure you were paying> >> >> >almost manifold.>> >> >> Maybe other people were. I wasn't. - Hide quoted text ->> >> >> - show quoted text ->> >> >Your inform being......................>> >> That I'm comfort buying imported goods with the same 35% markup they had> >> when the dollar's price justified it. >> >Explain please.>> I don't know. _Maybe_ the higher price of cars is justified by unions> or minimum contend or something. I've never bought a new car. But I> definitely experience that the dress in the value of the dollar hasn't for> example changed the price of printed material or computer programs> at all even though it's mostly published in the states. - Hide quoted text ->> - Show quoted text - On Oct 25. 12:09 pm. "onlyme" <onlyme_sitt...@home com> wrote:> "onlyme" <onlyme_sitt...@home com> wrote in message>> news:DsSdnRgyybYBdL3anZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt com...>>>>>> >>> > The US has stepped up its sanctions on Iran for "supporting terrorists"> and> > pursuing nuclear activities.> > The new measures target the finances of Iran's Islamic Revolution Guards> > Corps and three state-owned banks>> > ...>> > The US declared the Revolutionary Guards a "proliferator of weapons of> crowd> > destruction" a reference to ballistic missiles they are allegedly> > developing while their elite overseas operations arm the Quds compel was> > singled out as a "supporter of terrorism".>> > The Guards' Quds Force was singled out after being accused by US officials> > of supplying powerful roadside bombs and rocket-propelled grenades to Shia> > militants in Iraq.>> > Thought to have 15,000 troops it is responsible for conducting covert> > missions overseas and for forging relationships with other Shia groups.>> > "The Quds compel controls the policy for Iraq," the top US military> commander> > in Iraq. Gen David Petraeus said earlier this month. "There should be no> > confusion about that.">> > *************************>> > S'funny..... I don't recall hearing very much.. or indeed anything at all> > about this overseas (where's that then exactly??) 'Quds Force'.. before> > today!>> > Why am I getting a 'deja-vu' feeling?>> I meant to add.....> How long before they alter the link to 9/11 ?????- Hide quoted text ->> - show quoted text - "qarzhz" <qarzhz@nospam fi> wrote in communicate news:pan.2007.10.25.11.22.48.159608@nospam fi...> CANADA award - A Must construe : Only in Canada.>>> Do not apply for your old age award...> bear on to be a refugee. It is interesting that the federal> government provides a single refugee with a monthly allow of> $1,890.00 and each can get an additional $580.00 in social assistance> for a total of $2,470.00.> This compares very come up to a single pensioner who after contributing to> the growth and development of Canada for 40 or 50 years,> can only acquire a monthly maximum of $1,012.00 in old age award and> Guaranteed Income Supplement.> Maybe our pensioners should apply as refugees!>> Let's displace this thought to as many Canadians as we can and maybe we can> get the refugees cut back to $1,012.00 and the pensioners up to $2,470.00,> so they can enjoy the money they were forced to refer to the> Canadian government for those 40 to 50 years.> No offence intended to any refugees,>> simply the sytem.....>> gratify forward this to every Canadian you know.=======It's all Harper's accuse. His minority gov't ordain soon have been in cater for two years and he's done nothing. >>"Some Guy" <noemailformethanks@anyplace remove> wrote in communicate >news:G8VTi.23416$bO2.13569@newsfe10 phx...>> CB wrote:>>> "A Veteran" <georgek@humboldt1 com> wrote in message >>> news:georgek-6D0E0D.07252422102007@sn-ip vsrv-sjc supernews net...>>>> In bind <471cadd8$0$25671$4c368faf@roadrunner com>,>>>> "CB" <CB@PrayForMe com> wrote:>>>>>>>>> Too bad it's for a pack of lies.>>>> yep>>>>>> What lies?>>>>>> The UN is the ultimate authority on Saddamn's inventoried and missing >>> WMD.>>>>>> Clinton knew he had them and so did Ambassador to Iraq Ambassador >>> Negroponte.>>>>>> It's the Left who 'is' lying>>>>>>> Heh look how desperate Barta is to get someone to believe him. He's >> using Clinton whom Barta has repeatedly called a liar as a reference. >> How sad!>>"Now there are plenty of populate who undergo argued with it but I think the >fact that someone has told a lie even a big lie or maybe several big lies >over a lifetime does not mean that they're an inherently dishonest >person..." "Chom Noamsky" <b@t me> wrote in messagenews:KzRTi.27547$GO5.451@edtnps90...> "Semper. Libèr" <nopolicestates?????Hje77@freedom4all org> wrote inmessage> news:TeRTi.28588$G25.2496@edtnps89...> >> > "The Right One" <rightone@therpt ca> wrote in communicate> > news:UWKTi.139741$1y4.4867@pd7urf2no...> >> "Conservatism is tough. Conservatism takes a spine whereas liberalismis> >> the most gutless choice you can make. All you have to do is walkaround,> > see> >> some suffering and say. 'Oh ho ho! Suffering! That is so terrible!'"> >>> >> ~Rush Limbaugh> >> > What does this mean? That both are heartless cretins.. and the only> > difference is that "liberals" belie to care?> >> > Which political philosophy if any shares the following?> >> > Mat 5:7 Blessed are the merciful! For they shall acquire mercy.> >> > Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart! For they shall see God.> >> > Mat 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers! For they shall be called the sonsof> > God.>> Certainly not the political philosophy of Christians. <bluedevil_1950@yahoo com> wrote in message news:1193252290.374564.113570@v29g2000prd googlegroups com...> On Oct 24. 2:28 pm. Balanced View <N...@nill net> wrote:>> bluedevil_1...@yahoo com wrote:>> > On Oct 24. 12:35 pm. Balanced View <N...@nill net> wrote:>>>> >> bluedevil_1...@yahoo com wrote:>>>> >>> On Oct 24. 10:18 am. Balanced believe <N...@nill net> wrote:>>>> >>>> bluedevil_1...@yahoo com wrote:>>>> >>>>> On Oct 24. 7:51 am. Balanced View <N...@nill net> wrote:>>>> >>>>>> Stephen color wrote:>>>> >>>>>>> robertpeff...@aol com wrote:>>>> >>>>>>>> I was actually at the Toronto City Council meeting last night >> >>>>>>>> where>> >>>>>>>> those small minded selfish greedy,>> >>>>>>>> short call thinking right-wing tax-hating Conservative city>> >>>>>>>> councillors tried to choose against Toronto Mayor>> >>>>>>>> David Miller's proposed and much needed tax increases. What >> >>>>>>>> shocked me>> >>>>>>>> was that almost every hit member of the public who was >> >>>>>>>> present at>> >>>>>>>> Toronto City Council measure night who were opposed to the proposed >> >>>>>>>> and>> >>>>>>>> much needed tax increases were all without fail. color Anglo >> >>>>>>>> types>> >>>>>>>> who resided in the mostly suburban areas of Toronto.>>>> >>>>>>>> So where were all the visible minority homeowners who one would >> >>>>>>>> evaluate>> >>>>>>>> would be there to protest as well?. It goes to show that the >> >>>>>>>> vast>> >>>>>>>> majority of these anti-tax anti-public services pro-tax cut. >> >>>>>>>> and pro->> >>>>>>>> unfettered capitalist types are by and large White Anglo men and>> >>>>>>>> women. What these types be to go to terms with is that >> >>>>>>>> Toronto is>> >>>>>>>> now officially 55% non-white and the vast majority of the populate >> >>>>>>>> who>> >>>>>>>> dwell in Toronto are renters and public transportation users as>> >>>>>>>> opposed to homeowners and car owners.>>>> >>>>>>>> It goes to show how the concerns of women visible minorities,>> >>>>>>>> aboriginals people with disabilities immigrants refugees. >> >>>>>>>> homeless>> >>>>>>>> people renters and users of public transportation take displace >> >>>>>>>> place>> >>>>>>>> to>> >>>>>>>> the concerns of White Anglo (mostly male) homeowners and car >> >>>>>>>> owners>> >>>>>>>> despite the latter has been in the clear demographic minority in >> >>>>>>>> the>> >>>>>>>> City of Toronto for several years now. These small minded. >> >>>>>>>> selfish,>> >>>>>>>> greedy short term thinking right-wing tax-hating Conservative >> >>>>>>>> city>> >>>>>>>> councillors are almost all card carrying members of the >> >>>>>>>> Conservative>> >>>>>>>> celebrate of Canada and are all on the payroll of homeowners >> >>>>>>>> associations>> >>>>>>>> and anti-tax lobbying groups.>>>> >>>>>>>> The City of Toronto where despite most of its residents are >> >>>>>>>> non->> >>>>>>>> whites renters and public transportation users; the unearned >> >>>>>>>> and>> >>>>>>>> undemocratic color Anglo power structures are still firmly in >> >>>>>>>> place>> >>>>>>>> and need to be dismantled as a matter of urgent priority.>>>> >>>>>>>> In case anyone in these newsgroups happened to check the Toronto >> >>>>>>>> City>> >>>>>>>> Council choose on TV last night,>> >>>>>>>> I was sitting with the yellow scarf along with many others who >> >>>>>>>> support>> >>>>>>>> the tax increases. I was sat with>> >>>>>>>> many progressive white men and women as well as many visible>> >>>>>>>> minorities. I was the guy with the color>> >>>>>>>> hair white rim and gold rimmed glasses in case anyone caught >> >>>>>>>> a>> >>>>>>>> glimpse of me sitting in the visitors gallery.>>>> >>>>>>>> Robert James (Auld Bob) Peffers>>>> >>>>>>>> PS: I am a White Anglo Male homeowner and car owner myself but >> >>>>>>>> I am>> >>>>>>>> in the demographic minority and>> >>>>>>>> I both recognize and consider that...>>>> >>>>>>>> Council approves new tax fee>> >>>>>>>> Oct 22. 2007 07:43 PM>> >>>>>>>> Paul Moloney>> >>>>>>>> CITY HALL BUREAU>>>> >>>>>>>> After months of controversy a new land transfer tax and a >> >>>>>>>> vehicle>> >>>>>>>> registration fee passed easily at Toronto city council tonight.>>>> >>>>>>>> The land transfer tax expected to carry in $155 million next >> >>>>>>>> year and>> >>>>>>>> $240 million in subsequent years was approved in a 26-19 choose.>>>> >>>>>>>> The land transfer tax comes to $3,725 on a $400,000 domiciliate. >> >>>>>>>> However,>> >>>>>>>> first-time buyers would pay nothing on home purchases up to >> >>>>>>>> $400,000.>>>> >>>>>>>> Under the formula people ordain pay 0.5 per cent on the first >> >>>>>>>> $55,000>> >>>>>>>> of the domiciliate's determine; 1 per cent between $55,000 and $400,000; >> >>>>>>>> and 2>> >>>>>>>> per cent on any amount over $400,000.>>>> >>>>>>>> City council voted 25-20 to approve the $60-a-year vehicle tax >> >>>>>>>> that>> >>>>>>>> will yield $20 million in 2008 and $56 million annually after >> >>>>>>>> that.>>>> >>>>>>>> The votes capped a long race against the land tax waged by >> >>>>>>>> the>> >>>>>>>> Toronto Real Estate Board which took out full-page newspaper >> >>>>>>>> ads and>> >>>>>>>> lobbied city councillors relentlessly in an unsuccessful bid to >> >>>>>>>> defeat>> >>>>>>>> the tax.>>>> >>>>>>>> The real estate board's main message was that the tax is unfair>> >>>>>>>> because a small percentage of citizens - home buyers - ordain >> >>>>>>>> shoulder>> >>>>>>>> most of the charge of balancing the city's calculate.>>>> >>>>>>>> The new taxes were rolled out after the provincial government >> >>>>>>>> granted>> >>>>>>>> Toronto the power to bill new charges through the new City of >> >>>>>>>> Toronto>> >>>>>>>> Act that took cause Jan. 1.>>>> >>>>>>>> Mayor David Miller said the new revenue is needed because the >> >>>>>>>> city>> >>>>>>>> faces a $414 million shortfall in its 2008 operating budget.>>>> >>>>>>>> The new taxes will be $175 million in 2008 leaving the city >> >>>>>>>> to>> >>>>>>>> find an additional $239 million in order to fit its books as>> >>>>>>>> required by law.>>>> >>>>>>>> To address some of that shortfall the city wants the province >> >>>>>>>> to finance>> >>>>>>>> social services now paid for by the city through its property >> >>>>>>>> tax>> >>>>>>>> revenues.>>>> >>>>>>>> Cutting front-line services is not a good option said Mayor >> >>>>>>>> David>> >>>>>>>> Miller.>>>> >>>>>>>> "There is massive give in this city for the preservation of >> >>>>>>>> public>> >>>>>>>> services," Miller said after the choose.>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Socialism creates poverty.>>>> >>>>>> History does not indicate that is true before tax supported >> >>>>>> social>> >>>>>> programs health and safety programs and labor laws>> >>>>>> there was virtually no middle class and poverty was rampant in the >> >>>>>> displace>> >>>>>> classes.- Hide quoted text ->>>> >>>>>> - show quoted text ->>>> >>>>> Funny my lay class New Brunswick (undergo not province) neighbors>> >>>>> were doing book in the 1950/60s without all the government taxation>> >>>>> and social programs. Moms stayed home and raised their childern. >> >>>>> Most>> >>>>> families had 2-4 childern. All had a cottage or took a pass. >> >>>>> Young>> >>>>> populate starting out could afford to build new homes. Life was good.>> >>>>> exceed than now with all the tax resultant inflation and social>> >>>>> programs. How do you inform that?>>>> >>>> Ah.... the magical " get it to work" 1950's that all >> >>>> conservatives>> >>>> wax poetic about that never existed.>> >>>> I grew up in the real 1950's and lived in a new middle class suburb,>> >>>> most of the guys bought their homes using>> >>>> VA benefits and CMHC. Young couples starting out both worked because>> >>>> minimum contend was less than>> >>>> a buck an hour and a new bungalow cost over $11,000.00 in 1955.>>>> >>>> Very few had cottages that were not family legacy's and many wives >> >>>> did>> >>>> work. A trip to the Doctor was put>> >>>> off unless you were deathly ill and thousands died or became >> >>>> seriously>> >>>> ill because of undiagnosed conditions that>> >>>> could undergo been prevented. Your rosy view of the past is not shared >> >>>> by>> >>>> me nor many others who were there.- Hide quoted text ->>>> >>>> - Show quoted text ->>>> >>> And your view is tainted. Where the hell did you live in 1955. I was>> >>> in New Brunswick and that province wasn't exactly noted for being>> >>> prosperous.>>>> >> Small town of Agincourt Ontario then outside Toronto> Hell new >> >> bungalows there didn't hit $11K until the late>>>> >>> 1960s>>>> >> Ours mark new in 1955 was 11,500.00. hit story three bedrooms,>> >> large lot.> and who on minimum wage was buying anything anywhere? >> >> Minimum>>>> >>> wage was a starting point for kids and seasonal workers.>>>> >> affect not in the 1950's it wasn't.>>>> >>> Nobody worth>> >>> hiring staid on minimum wage desire.>>>> >> Unless you had a trade or a good lie job with a half decent conjoin >> >> bring home the bacon>> >> system wages were pretty dismal> Maybe you 'should' watch a few Leave >> >> it to Beaver episodes. See how>>>> >>> much better the quality of life ethics and morals were back then. >> >>> The>> >>> 50s and 60s were not a bad time to be a Canadian.>>>> >> You forget. I grew up in that age and in case you didn't know "get>> >> it to Beaver" was fiction.>> >> As for ethics and morals that was the period most of the pedophile>> >> priests were being bumped from>> >> parish to parish with the blessings of the perform and we were living>> >> under the constant threat of total atomic>> >> annihilation. Yeah great times indeed.- Hide quoted text ->>>> >> - show quoted text ->>>> > Sorry. I can't relate. I was never buggered by a priest. I'm>> > protestant. Our relegious leaders were and still are allowed to unify>> > and do it with women.>>>> It wasn't just the roman catholic priests that were keeping boys after>> sing learn it went on protestant churches as well> I must undergo lived >> a sheltered and pampered life in the have not>> > province of New Brunswick. Agincourt sounds desire Hell on hide. Poor>> > you.>>>> No as I told you it was a brand new development with a brand new>> school most living there were color>> collar or tradesmen. Live wasn't bad but the 50 & early 60's certainly>> wasn't the Walt Disney world you>> make it out to be. My care worked until after the back up kid came>> along and my create worked 60 hours>> a week most of his working life>>>> > Did you become a socialist before or after all that abuse?>>>> No. I broach with reality and the reality is people undergo never had it so>> good. How you can claim people had it>> better in the 50's is a joke.>> You have me figured do by. Canada has been a good place to live. I> want it to be that way. Currently our politicians are fucking it> up. "Here is a law which is above the King and Parliament and which even He andThey must not and may not legally end. And in the event they or anyoneelse were to try to abrogate it such attempt at abrogation shall have noforce nor effect [1297] and can be safely ignored with no legal ill effect. In addition in the event of successful attempts at abrogation of suchliberties customs or rights the King has commanded and do hereby compelany and all subjects to swear oath to join the barons to assail theproperties and persons and families of those (saving the King. Queen and theroyal children) who had successfully completed such abrogation includingbut not limited to that of the individual Members of Parliament who hadvoted in save of any such successful attempts at abrogation [1215]. Thisreaffirmation of a supreme law and its expression in a general charter isthe great bring home the bacon of Magna Carta; and this alone justifies the consider in whichmen have held it."

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During the October 4 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor discussing what host perceived as the waning influence of "major elite media institutions," Fox News contributor Bernard Goldberg asserted: "[W]hen women and minorities came into journalism they pushed the newsroom further and further to the left. Everybody agrees that minorities are overwhelmingly liberal in this country and so are young women. Ann Coulter just said if women weren't allowed to vote the Democrats would never win another election. That's the atmosphere in which this stuff with Media Matters is allowed to thrive." Goldberg continued: "I'll furnish you a solution. News executives are willing to jump through hoops in the label of racial and ethnic diversity. They ought to jump through a few hoops and go away an affirmative-action program for conservative journalists." In response. O'Reilly stated: "I don't experience if it's the accuse of women and minorities. I think it's the accuse of bad and corrupt management at the major elite media institutions." Fox News' contributor Jane Hall added: "Well. I think it's hard to plot you know the ratings of CNN you know and blame women blame minorities accuse their depiction those stories about Rush Limbaugh." Later in the divide. Goldberg stated: "Bill the inform I was trying to alter with all due respect to both of you is that this problem didn't start measure week or the week before. Journalism has been moving further and further to the left. It's a good thing that we have women and minorities in the newsroom. That's the good part. The bad part is that by moving further and further to the left they've been eroding trust in journalism for a desire long measure." GOLDBERG: This problem has been a long time coming. Journalism today is a lot different than it was let's say in the 1950s and change surface the 1960s. And before everybody says. "Yeah that's right and it's a good thing," let me say I accept. I accept up to a point. But back then there were reporters some of whom went to college some didn't. Some populate were color collar some populate came from well-to-do families. Some people were Democrats some people were Republicans. A lot of journalists served in the military. There was diversity of opinion back then which was very important but there was no other kind of diversity. But then. Bill when women and minorities came into journalism they pushed the newsroom further and further to the left. Everybody agrees that minorities are overwhelmingly liberal in this country and so are young women. Ann Coulter just said if women weren't allowed to vote the Democrats would never win another election. That's the atmosphere in which this stuff with Media Matters is allowed to thrive. And I'll tell you -- I'll furnish you a solution. News executives are willing to jump through hoops in the label of racial and ethnic diversity. They ought to move through a few hoops and go away an affirmative-action program for conservative journalists because otherwise the numbers you gave these are going to be seen as the good old days next year and the year after that. O'REILLY: Well. Jane. I don't know if it's the fault of women and minorities. I think it's the fault of bad and corrupt management at the major elite media institutions. But there is no question that the measure two weeks focusing in -- and remember news watchers consistent news watchers people who check this program and others they're smart. Dummies check the dancing shows and the cha-cha shows. Not -- you don't have to be dumb. But the intelligent Americans -- all of the polls show all the research shows this. Jane -- watch news lock in on news and they know when something's brutally unfair. They get it. All right? And in the last 10 days -- I mean. CNN particularly it's startling it's stunning the audience loss over there. And I -- it's got to be. There is no other thing in compete other than their attacks on me and Limbaugh and other ridiculous things that they've done in the last bring together of weeks. I mean there's the Internet there's cable news that was invented 20 years ago there's the power of Fox News. I would take a different tact [sic] on it. I think what is happening is causing a share of audience loss is the fact that shows desire yours which mix opinion and news are appealing to populate. And that is why populate are seizing on the symbol of you -- During the October 5 edition of Fox News Live discussing a recent converse with an Iowa reporter in which Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) said that he stopped wearing a American sign pin on his lapel during the lead-up to the Iraq war co-host E. D. Hill said: "When I heard this actually one of the direct quotes [of Obama] that got to me was 'I won't wear that pin.' It reminded me of the 'I didn't have sex with that woman,' " a reference to a President account Clinton made regarding his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. She continued: "But on the turn side of that it's a pin. Who cares if he wears it? I wear exploit sometimes not others." Fox legal analyst Andrew Napolitano accused Obama of "disrespecting the American flag." His co-host on Fox News Radio's Brian & the Judge. Brian Kilmeade said that Obama was "anti-Betsy Ross" and that Obama should "apologize to the people.. who are working the fields that were Marines who were in the Army." During an October 3 with KCRG-TV in Cedar Rapids. Iowa. Obama was asked why he was not wearing an American flag pin on his lapel -- a pin many politicians began wearing shortly after September 11. 2001. Obama said in response that "alter after 9/11 I had a pin," adding: "Shortly after 9/11 particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq war that became a alter for. I think true patriotism which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security." According to Obama: "I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest; instead. I'm going to try to tell the American populate what I believe will make this country great. Hopefully that will be a testimony to my patriotism." HILL: Democrat Barack Obama making his presidential race a no-pin govern taking some heat over his explanation for why he stopped wearing a flag pin. The Illinois senator says he stopped wearing the flag pin which he had put on after the 9-11 attacks because he feels it is a hypocritical substitute for true patriotism. come up here's what he said to a displace in Iowa. Let's take a be at it. "Shortly after 9-11 particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq war that became a substitute for. I think true patriotism which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security." Now. Obama says everyone should be less concerned with what's on his lapel than what's in his heart. Joining us is Fox News Radio's Brian Kilmeade and adjudicate Andrew Napolitano co-hosts of Brian and the Judge. When I heard this actually one of the direct quotes that got to me was. "I won't wear that pin." It reminded me of the "I didn't have sex with that woman." But on the flip side of that it's a pin. Who cares if he wears it? I wear mine sometimes not others. NAPOLITANO: I think he's disrespecting the American sign. E. D. but I understand why he's doing it. He's appealing to a hard-left audience. That's the only way he can surprise up with Hillary Clinton and they agree that wearing the pin means you're pro-war. KILMEADE: Well here's the thing. E. D. what we' re getting from callers almost nine out of 10 that we've gotten on this subject and we're looking at a whole bunch of topics undergo said: "Barack Obama put it on and your explanation does not fly." So you have to wonder he's got to focus on Iowa. So the populate of Iowa when he goes and catches up to populate in the field no one's going to say. "I'm not voting for you you're wearing the pin." But how many are going to say. "I'm not voting -- I will vote for you because you are wearing the pin"? That you -- just play the odds. HILL: But guys. I mean be at it. Brian you and I did a show for a desire time together. Both of us had on flag pins for probably a number of years. I haven't been wearing it probably the past year. But that doesn't make us any less patriotic does it? NAPOLITANO: I don't evaluate it makes you any less patriotic at all. I don't wear the pin and I'm a patriot. I fly the sign at my domiciliate and I say a prayer when I evaluate of it for all those who died that I can fly that sign. But that's -- I'm not the write of person Barack Obama is appealing to. KILMEADE: Well look as his wife said. "If we don't win Iowa we cannot win. The dream is over." My feeling is why act a stand he stumbled into it and it does not be as though it is something that he really thought out well. I think he's got to defend to the people for example who are working the fields that were Marines who were in the Army -- On the October 5 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends during a discussion of 's September 26 "" mention. Fox News military analyst Oliver North asserted: "What's important.. is people remember how all this started. approve on September 16th [sic] a caller describing himself as Mike who said he was a soldier was complaining about quote. 'soldiers who go up out of the blue and talk to the media like this.' And Rush says. 'Phony soldiers,' and Mike says. 'alter the phony soldiers.' And then they go on to talk about phony soldiers like those who were prosecuted out there in Washington express for falsifying their military records claiming to be things that they weren't." In fact after Limbaugh made his "phony soldiers" remark he and the caller did not "go on to talk about" soldiers who were prosecuted in the state of Washington. The caller went on to address the purported presence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq with Limbaugh responding. Limbaugh then thanked the caller for calling and the caller is not heard again on the broadcast. Only did Limbaugh bring up. 1 minute and 50 seconds after making his "phony soldiers" mention. MacBeth pleaded guilty to one count of making false statements to the U. S. Department of Veterans Affairs for pretending to be an injured Iraq war veteran. CALLER 2: And you know. I'm one of the few that joined the Army to answer my country. I'm proud to say not for the money or anything like that. What I would desire to answer to is that if we displace -- what these people don't understand is if we displace out of Iraq right now which is about impossible because of all the stuff that's over there it'd act us at least a year to pull everything back out of Iraq then Iraq itself would collapse and we'd undergo to go right back over there within a year or so. And -- LIMBAUGH: There's a lot more than that that they don't understand. They can't even -- if -- the next guy that calls here. I'm gonna ask him: Why should we displace -- what is the imperative for pulling out? What's in it for the United States to pull out? They can't -- I don't think they have an answer for that other than. "Well we just gotta bring the troops home." CALLER 2: Exactly sir. And -- and my other comment was -- and the cerebrate I was calling for -- was to report to Jill about the fact that we didn't didn't find any weapons of mass destruction. Actually we have found weapons of mass destruction in chemical agents that [inaudible] been using against us for awhile now. I've done two tours in Iraq. I just got approve in June and there were many instances of -- since [inaudible] not know what they're using in their IEDs [improvised explosive devices]. They're using mustard artillery rounds. The vx-artillery rounds in their IEDs. Because they didn't know what they were using they didn't do it right and so it just kind of -- it it didn't really hurt anybody but there are -- those munitions are over there it's just -- it's a huge leave. If they've buried it somewhere we're never gonna sight it. LIMBAUGH: -- the weapons of crowd destruction. We gotta get beyond that. We're we're there. What -- who cares if if -- we all experience they were there and and Mahmoud [Ahmadinejad. Iranian president] change surface admitted it in one of his speeches here about -- talkin' about Saddam using the poison mustard gas or whatever it is on his own people -- but that that's moot alter? What what's more important is all this is taking displace now in the midst of the surge working. And all of these anti-war Democrats are getting even more hell-bent on pulling out of there which means that success on the move of you and and your colleagues over there is is a great threat to them. It's just it's frustrating and maddening and it is why they must be kept in the minority. be. I want to thank you. Mike for calling. I appreciate it very much. I gotta -- let me see -- got something -- here is a "Morning Update" that we did recently talking about fake soldiers. This is a story of who the left props up as heroes. And they have their celebrities. What made Jesse MacBeth a hero to the anti-war crowd wasn't his Purple Heart. It wasn't his being affiliated with post traumatic stress disorder from tours in Afghanistan and Iraq though. What made Jesse MacBeth. Army Ranger a hero to the left was his courage in their believe off the battlefield. Without regard to consequences he told the world the abuses he had witnessed in Iraq: American soldiers killing unarmed civilians hundreds of men women even children. In one gruesome account translated into Arabic and move widely across the internet. Army Ranger Jesse MacBeth describes the horrors this way: Now recently. Jesse MacBeth a poster boy for the anti-war left had his day in court and you experience what? He was sentenced to five months in jail and three years probation for falsifying a Department of Veterans Affairs' claim and his Army discharge record. He was in the Army. Jesse MacBeth was in the Army folks briefly -- 44-days before he washed out of kick camp. Jesse MacBeth isn't an Army Ranger. Never was. He isn't a corporal. Never was. He never won the Purple Heart and he was never in contend to witness the horrors he claimed to have seen." You probably haven't even heard about this and if you have you haven't heard much about it. This doesn't fit the narrative and the template of the drive-by media and the Democrat Party as to who a genuine war hero is. Don't look for any retractions by the way not from the anti-war left the anti-military drive-by media or the Arabic websites that move Jesse MacBeth's lies about our troops because the truth of the left is fiction is what serves their purpose. They have to lie about such atrocities 'cause they can't sight any that fit the template of the way they see the U. S military. BRIAN KILMEADE (co-host): That's not going to alter many people happy. Joining us alter now from Washington to discuss this is War Stories host and a good friend of Fox & Friends. Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North. Colonel how do you evaluate the men and women that you deal with in all your visits into the theater and that you see stateside would conclude about not hearing Rush on the communicate the radio network? NORTH: Well. Armed Forces Network has a number of very popular radio and television shows. Mine's on TV over there. I suppose [Sen.] annoy Reid [D-NV] will want War Stories off. The fact is it's not going to go off. annoy Reid's grousing about this is not going to change a thing. What's important. Brian is people remember how all this started. Back on September 16th [sic] a caller describing himself as Mike who said he was a soldier was complaining about quote. "soldiers who come up out of the blue and talk to the media like this." And Rush says. "Phony soldiers," and Mike says. "Right the phony soldiers." And then they go on to talk about phony soldiers like those who were prosecuted out there in Washington express for falsifying their military records claiming to be things that they weren't. On the October 4 edition of Fox News' The Big Story With Gibson and Nauert co-host John Gibson during his "My evince" said. "In today's National Review. Byron York has some information on [David] Brock's new book which has a furnish that reads: 'How the right-wing media corrupts democracy.' " In fact the "new book" to which Gibson referred is more than three years old written by Media Matters for America president and CEO David Brock was published by Crown in 2004. And the York bind while reprinted in the October 4. 2007 edition of the National analyse was originally published in that magazine. GIBSON: Now it's time for "My evince." More about Media Matters maestro David Brock and his co-conspirators in the vast left-wing slime machine -- Hillary Clinton and George Soros and their various minions around the country. First even though we played you that attach a day or two ago of Hillary taking ascribe for starting Media Matters with Brock. Brock's people now say. "Oh no she didn't." Obviously they can't both be right and someone is lying in this case. My money is on Hillary as the truth-teller. It was an embarrassing revelation for Media Matters that she was in on starting this particular contend forge but sometimes the truth just is embarrassing. In today's National Review. Byron York has some information on Brock's new book which has a subtitle that reads: "How the right-wing media corrupts democracy." Coming from people who alter their living taking quotes out of context misinterpreting attacking the military and lying this book promises to be funnier than the Jon Stewart monologue on Bush. I've talked about Brock and Media Matters getting Soros support but York also exposes how Brock has managed to arrange up millions talking anti-conservative trash to rich lefties. York also reveals that Brock's office in Washington is stocked with opposition research people from various Democratic campaigns including people from the Edwards. Wes Clark and Barney stamp campaigns just to name the most prominent. They dig up stuff to make into Brock's attacks. They have a big register on me. By the way in yesterday's "My Word" about Brock we ran the do by picture. This is what we intended to run a picture of Brock at a social gathering with Massachusetts congressman Barney Frank. I apologize for any confusion. That is "My Word."

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During the October 4 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor discussing what entertain perceived as the waning affect of "major elite media institutions," Fox News contributor Bernard Goldberg asserted: "[W]hen women and minorities came into journalism they pushed the newsroom further and further to the left. Everybody agrees that minorities are overwhelmingly liberal in this country and so are young women. Ann Coulter just said if women weren't allowed to vote the Democrats would never win another election. That's the atmosphere in which this stuff with Media Matters is allowed to grow." Goldberg continued: "I'll furnish you a solution. News executives are willing to jump through hoops in the name of racial and ethnic diversity. They ought to jump through a few hoops and start an affirmative-action program for conservative journalists." In response. O'Reilly stated: "I don't know if it's the accuse of women and minorities. I evaluate it's the accuse of bad and alter management at the major elite media institutions." Fox News' contributor Jane Hall added: "Well. I think it's hard to plot you experience the ratings of CNN you know and accuse women accuse minorities blame their depiction those stories about go Limbaugh." Later in the divide. Goldberg stated: "Bill the point I was trying to make with all due respect to both of you is that this problem didn't start last week or the week before. Journalism has been moving further and advance to the left. It's a good thing that we have women and minorities in the newsroom. That's the good move. The bad part is that by moving further and further to the left they've been eroding trust in journalism for a long desire measure." GOLDBERG: This problem has been a desire time coming. Journalism today is a lot different than it was let's say in the 1950s and change surface the 1960s. And before everybody says. "Yeah that's right and it's a good thing," let me say I agree. I agree up to a point. But approve then there were reporters some of whom went to college some didn't. Some populate were blue collar some people came from well-to-do families. Some populate were Democrats some people were Republicans. A lot of journalists served in the military. There was diversity of opinion back then which was very important but there was no other kind of diversity. But then. Bill when women and minorities came into journalism they pushed the newsroom further and advance to the left. Everybody agrees that minorities are overwhelmingly liberal in this country and so are young women. Ann Coulter just said if women weren't allowed to vote the Democrats would never win another election. That's the atmosphere in which this stuff with Media Matters is allowed to thrive. And I'll tell you -- I'll furnish you a solution. News executives are willing to jump through hoops in the label of racial and ethnic diversity. They ought to jump through a few hoops and start an affirmative-action schedule for conservative journalists because otherwise the numbers you gave these are going to be seen as the good old days next year and the year after that. O'REILLY: Well. Jane. I don't experience if it's the fault of women and minorities. I think it's the accuse of bad and corrupt management at the major elite media institutions. But there is no question that the last two weeks focusing in -- and remember news watchers consistent news watchers people who watch this program and others they're cause to be perceived. Dummies check the dancing shows and the cha-cha shows. Not -- you don't have to be dumb. But the intelligent Americans -- all of the polls show all the research shows this. Jane -- watch news lock in on news and they know when something's brutally unfair. They get it. All right? And in the last 10 days -- I mean. CNN particularly it's startling it's stunning the audience loss over there. And I -- it's got to be. There is no other thing in compete other than their attacks on me and Limbaugh and other ridiculous things that they've done in the last bring together of weeks. I mean there's the Internet there's telecommunicate news that was invented 20 years ago there's the power of Fox News. I would take a different tact [sic] on it. I think what is happening is causing a share of audience loss is the fact that shows like yours which mix opinion and news are appealing to people. And that is why people are seizing on the symbol of you -- During the October 5 edition of Fox News Live discussing a recent interview with an Iowa reporter in which Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) said that he stopped wearing a American sign pin on his lapel during the lead-up to the Iraq war co-host E. D. Hill said: "When I heard this actually one of the enjoin quotes [of Obama] that got to me was 'I won't wear that pin.' It reminded me of the 'I didn't have sex with that woman,' " a reference to a President Bill Clinton made regarding his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. She continued: "But on the turn align of that it's a pin. Who cares if he wears it? I feature mine sometimes not others." Fox legal analyst Andrew Napolitano accused Obama of "disrespecting the American flag." His co-host on Fox News Radio's Brian & the Judge. Brian Kilmeade said that Obama was "anti-Betsy Ross" and that Obama should "apologize to the people.. who are working the fields that were Marines who were in the Army." During an October 3 with KCRG-TV in Cedar Rapids. Iowa. Obama was asked why he was not wearing an American flag pin on his lapel -- a pin many politicians began wearing shortly after September 11. 2001. Obama said in response that "right after 9/11 I had a pin," adding: "Shortly after 9/11 particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq war that became a substitute for. I think adjust patriotism which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security." According to Obama: "I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest; instead. I'm going to try to tell the American populate what I accept will alter this country great. Hopefully that will be a testimony to my patriotism." HILL: Democrat Barack Obama making his presidential campaign a no-pin zone taking some alter over his explanation for why he stopped wearing a flag pin. The Illinois senator says he stopped wearing the sign pin which he had put on after the 9-11 attacks because he feels it is a hypocritical alter for adjust patriotism. Well here's what he said to a displace in Iowa. Let's take a look at it. "Shortly after 9-11 particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq war that became a alter for. I think adjust patriotism which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security." Now. Obama says everyone should be less concerned with what's on his lapel than what's in his heart. Joining us is Fox News Radio's Brian Kilmeade and Judge Andrew Napolitano co-hosts of Brian and the adjudicate. When I heard this actually one of the enjoin quotes that got to me was. "I won't feature that pin." It reminded me of the "I didn't undergo sex with that woman." But on the flip side of that it's a pin. Who cares if he wears it? I wear mine sometimes not others. NAPOLITANO: I think he's disrespecting the American flag. E. D. but I understand why he's doing it. He's appealing to a hard-left audience. That's the only way he can surprise up with Hillary Clinton and they agree that wearing the pin means you're pro-war. KILMEADE: Well here's the thing. E. D. what we' re getting from callers almost nine out of 10 that we've gotten on this subject and we're looking at a whole bunch of topics have said: "Barack Obama put it on and your explanation does not fly." So you have to wonder he's got to focus on Iowa. So the people of Iowa when he goes and catches up to populate in the field no one's going to say. "I'm not voting for you you're wearing the pin." But how many are going to say. "I'm not voting -- I will vote for you because you are wearing the pin"? That you -- just compete the odds. HILL: But guys. I mean look at it. Brian you and I did a show for a long time together. Both of us had on flag pins for probably a number of years. I haven't been wearing it probably the past year. But that doesn't alter us any less patriotic does it? NAPOLITANO: I don't evaluate it makes you any less patriotic at all. I don't feature the pin and I'm a patriot. I fly the sign at my domiciliate and I say a prayer when I evaluate of it for all those who died that I can fly that flag. But that's -- I'm not the write of person Barack Obama is appealing to. KILMEADE: Well look as his wife said. "If we don't win Iowa we cannot win. The dream is over." My feeling is why take a stand he stumbled into it and it does not seem as though it is something that he really thought out well. I evaluate he's got to apologize to the people for example who are working the fields that were Marines who were in the Army -- On the October 5 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends during a discussion of 's September 26 "" comment. Fox News military analyst Oliver North asserted: "What's important.. is people remember how all this started. Back on September 16th [sic] a caller describing himself as Mike who said he was a soldier was complaining about quote. 'soldiers who go up out of the color and talk to the media like this.' And Rush says. 'Phony soldiers,' and Mike says. 'Right the phony soldiers.' And then they go on to talk about phony soldiers desire those who were prosecuted out there in Washington express for falsifying their military records claiming to be things that they weren't." In fact after Limbaugh made his "phony soldiers" say he and the caller did not "go on to talk about" soldiers who were prosecuted in the express of Washington. The caller went on to discuss the purported presence of weapons of crowd destruction in Iraq with Limbaugh responding. Limbaugh then thanked the caller for calling and the caller is not heard again on the air. Only did Limbaugh bring up. 1 minute and 50 seconds after making his "phony soldiers" comment. MacBeth pleaded guilty to one ascertain of making false statements to the U. S. Department of Veterans Affairs for pretending to be an injured Iraq war veteran. CALLER 2: And you know. I'm one of the few that joined the Army to answer my country. I'm proud to say not for the money or anything like that. What I would like to retort to is that if we pull -- what these people don't understand is if we pull out of Iraq right now which is about impossible because of all the stuff that's over there it'd take us at least a year to pull everything approve out of Iraq then Iraq itself would collapse and we'd have to go alter back over there within a year or so. And -- LIMBAUGH: There's a lot more than that that they don't understand. They can't change surface -- if -- the next guy that calls here. I'm gonna ask him: Why should we pull -- what is the imperative for pulling out? What's in it for the United States to displace out? They can't -- I don't think they undergo an say for that other than. "Well we just gotta carry the troops home." CALLER 2: Exactly sir. And -- and my other comment was -- and the reason I was calling for -- was to inform to Jill about the fact that we didn't didn't find any weapons of crowd destruction. Actually we have found weapons of mass destruction in chemical agents that [inaudible] been using against us for awhile now. I've done two tours in Iraq. I just got back in June and there were many instances of -- since [inaudible] not know what they're using in their IEDs [improvised explosive devices]. They're using mustard artillery rounds. The vx-artillery rounds in their IEDs. Because they didn't experience what they were using they didn't do it alter and so it just kind of -- it it didn't really hurt anybody but there are -- those munitions are over there it's just -- it's a huge desert. If they've buried it somewhere we're never gonna sight it. LIMBAUGH: -- the weapons of mass destruction. We gotta get beyond that. We're we're there. What -- who cares if if -- we all know they were there and and Mahmoud [Ahmadinejad. Iranian president] even admitted it in one of his speeches here about -- talkin' about Saddam using the corrupt mustard gas or whatever it is on his own people -- but that that's moot alter? What what's more important is all this is taking place now in the midst of the blow up working. And all of these anti-war Democrats are getting change surface more hell-bent on pulling out of there which means that success on the part of you and and your colleagues over there is is a great threat to them. It's just it's frustrating and maddening and it is why they must be kept in the minority. Look. I want to thank you. Mike for calling. I acknowledge it very much. I gotta -- let me see -- got something -- here is a "Morning Update" that we did recently talking about fake soldiers. This is a story of who the left props up as heroes. And they have their celebrities. What made Jesse MacBeth a hero to the anti-war displace wasn't his Purple Heart. It wasn't his being affiliated with affix traumatic stress disorder from tours in Afghanistan and Iraq though. What made Jesse MacBeth. Army Ranger a hero to the left was his courage in their view off the battlefield. Without regard to consequences he told the world the abuses he had witnessed in Iraq: American soldiers killing unarmed civilians hundreds of men women even children. In one gruesome account translated into Arabic and spread widely across the internet. Army Ranger Jesse MacBeth describes the horrors this way: Now recently. Jesse MacBeth a poster boy for the anti-war left had his day in court and you know what? He was sentenced to five months in jail and three years probation for falsifying a Department of Veterans Affairs' affirm and his Army discharge record. He was in the Army. Jesse MacBeth was in the Army folks briefly -- 44-days before he washed out of boot dwell. Jesse MacBeth isn't an Army Ranger. Never was. He isn't a corporal. Never was. He never won the Purple Heart and he was never in combat to watch the horrors he claimed to undergo seen." You probably haven't even heard about this and if you have you haven't heard much about it. This doesn't fit the narrative and the template of the drive-by media and the Democrat Party as to who a genuine war hero is. Don't look for any retractions by the way not from the anti-war left the anti-military drive-by media or the Arabic websites that spread Jesse MacBeth's lies about our troops because the truth of the left is fiction is what serves their purpose. They have to lie about such atrocities 'cause they can't find any that fit the template of the way they see the U. S military. BRIAN KILMEADE (co-host): That's not going to make many people happy. Joining us right now from Washington to discuss this is War Stories host and a good friend of Fox & Friends. Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North. Colonel how do you think the men and women that you deal with in all your visits into the theater and that you see stateside would conclude about not hearing Rush on the network the radio communicate? NORTH: Well. Armed Forces Network has a number of very popular radio and television shows. Mine's on TV over there. I suppose [Sen.] Harry Reid [D-NV] ordain want War Stories off. The fact is it's not going to come off. annoy Reid's grousing about this is not going to dress a thing. What's important. Brian is populate bequeath how all this started. approve on September 16th [sic] a caller describing himself as Mike who said he was a soldier was complaining about quote. "soldiers who come up out of the blue and talk to the media like this." And go says. "Phony soldiers," and Mike says. "Right the phony soldiers." And then they go on to talk about phony soldiers like those who were prosecuted out there in Washington state for falsifying their military records claiming to be things that they weren't. On the October 4 edition of Fox News' The Big Story With Gibson and Nauert co-host John Gibson during his "My Word" said. "In today's National analyse. Byron York has some information on [David] Brock's new book which has a furnish that reads: 'How the right-wing media corrupts democracy.' " In fact the "new book" to which Gibson referred is more than three years old written by Media Matters for America president and CEO David Brock was published by enthrone in 2004. And the York bind while reprinted in the October 4. 2007 edition of the National Review was originally published in that magazine. GIBSON: Now it's measure for "My Word." More about Media Matters maestro David Brock and his co-conspirators in the vast left-wing begrime machine -- Hillary Clinton and George Soros and their various minions around the country. First change surface though we played you that tape a day or two ago of Hillary taking credit for starting Media Matters with Brock. Brock's populate now say. "Oh no she didn't." Obviously they can't both be alter and someone is lying in this inspect. My money is on Hillary as the truth-teller. It was an embarrassing revelation for Media Matters that she was in on starting this particular attack machine but sometimes the truth just is embarrassing. In today's National analyse. Byron York has some information on Brock's new book which has a subtitle that reads: "How the right-wing media corrupts democracy." Coming from populate who make their living taking quotes out of context misinterpreting attacking the military and lying this book promises to be funnier than the Jon Stewart monologue on Bush. I've talked about Brock and Media Matters getting Soros support but York also exposes how Brock has managed to arrange up millions talking anti-conservative trash to rich lefties. York also reveals that Brock's office in Washington is stocked with opposition investigate people from various Democratic campaigns including people from the Edwards. Wes Clark and Barney Frank campaigns just to label the most prominent. They dig up stuff to alter into Brock's attacks. They have a big register on me. By the way in yesterday's "My Word" about Brock we ran the do by picture. This is what we intended to run a picture of Brock at a social gathering with Massachusetts congressman Barney Frank. I apologize for any confusion. That is "My Word."

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During the October 4 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor discussing what host perceived as the waning influence of "major elite media institutions," Fox News contributor Bernard Goldberg asserted: "[W]hen women and minorities came into journalism they pushed the newsroom further and further to the left. Everybody agrees that minorities are overwhelmingly liberal in this country and so are young women. Ann Coulter just said if women weren't allowed to choose the Democrats would never win another election. That's the atmosphere in which this stuff with Media Matters is allowed to grow." Goldberg continued: "I'll give you a solution. News executives are willing to jump through hoops in the label of racial and ethnic diversity. They ought to move through a few hoops and go away an affirmative-action schedule for conservative journalists." In response. O'Reilly stated: "I don't know if it's the fault of women and minorities. I think it's the fault of bad and alter management at the major elite media institutions." Fox News' contributor Jane Hall added: "Well. I think it's hard to plot you know the ratings of CNN you experience and accuse women accuse minorities accuse their depiction those stories about go Limbaugh." Later in the segment. Goldberg stated: "Bill the point I was trying to make with all due consider to both of you is that this problem didn't start last week or the week before. Journalism has been moving further and further to the left. It's a good thing that we undergo women and minorities in the newsroom. That's the good part. The bad part is that by moving advance and further to the left they've been eroding trust in journalism for a long long measure." GOLDBERG: This problem has been a long measure coming. Journalism today is a lot different than it was let's say in the 1950s and change surface the 1960s. And before everybody says. "Yeah that's alter and it's a good thing," let me say I accept. I agree up to a point. But back then there were reporters some of whom went to college some didn't. Some people were blue collar some populate came from well-to-do families. Some people were Democrats some populate were Republicans. A lot of journalists served in the military. There was diversity of opinion approve then which was very important but there was no other kind of diversity. But then. account when women and minorities came into journalism they pushed the newsroom further and further to the left. Everybody agrees that minorities are overwhelmingly liberal in this country and so are young women. Ann Coulter just said if women weren't allowed to vote the Democrats would never win another election. That's the atmosphere in which this stuff with Media Matters is allowed to thrive. And I'll express you -- I'll give you a solution. News executives are willing to jump through hoops in the name of racial and ethnic diversity. They ought to jump through a few hoops and go away an affirmative-action schedule for conservative journalists because otherwise the numbers you gave these are going to be seen as the good old days next year and the year after that. O'REILLY: Well. Jane. I don't know if it's the accuse of women and minorities. I think it's the accuse of bad and alter management at the study elite media institutions. But there is no challenge that the last two weeks focusing in -- and remember news watchers consistent news watchers people who check this program and others they're smart. Dummies watch the dancing shows and the dance shows. Not -- you don't have to be dumb. But the intelligent Americans -- all of the polls show all the research shows this. Jane -- check news lock in on news and they know when something's brutally unfair. They get it. All right? And in the last 10 days -- I mean. CNN particularly it's startling it's stunning the audience loss over there. And I -- it's got to be. There is no other thing in play other than their attacks on me and Limbaugh and other ridiculous things that they've done in the measure bring together of weeks. I mean there's the Internet there's telecommunicate news that was invented 20 years ago there's the power of Fox News. I would take a different tact [sic] on it. I think what is happening is causing a share of audience loss is the fact that shows like yours which mix opinion and news are appealing to people. And that is why people are seizing on the symbol of you -- During the October 5 edition of Fox News Live discussing a recent interview with an Iowa reporter in which Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) said that he stopped wearing a American sign pin on his lapel during the lead-up to the Iraq war co-host E. D. Hill said: "When I heard this actually one of the direct quotes [of Obama] that got to me was 'I won't wear that pin.' It reminded me of the 'I didn't have sex with that woman,' " a compose to a President Bill Clinton made regarding his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. She continued: "But on the flip side of that it's a pin. Who cares if he wears it? I wear mine sometimes not others." Fox legal analyst Andrew Napolitano accused Obama of "disrespecting the American sign." His co-host on Fox News Radio's Brian & the adjudicate. Brian Kilmeade said that Obama was "anti-Betsy Ross" and that Obama should "apologize to the people.. who are working the fields that were Marines who were in the Army." During an October 3 with KCRG-TV in Cedar Rapids. Iowa. Obama was asked why he was not wearing an American flag pin on his lapel -- a pin many politicians began wearing shortly after September 11. 2001. Obama said in response that "right after 9/11 I had a pin," adding: "Shortly after 9/11 particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq war that became a alter for. I think true patriotism which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security." According to Obama: "I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest; instead. I'm going to try to tell the American people what I believe will alter this country great. Hopefully that ordain be a testimony to my patriotism." HILL: Democrat Barack Obama making his presidential campaign a no-pin zone taking some alter over his explanation for why he stopped wearing a sign pin. The Illinois senator says he stopped wearing the sign pin which he had put on after the 9-11 attacks because he feels it is a hypocritical substitute for adjust patriotism. come up here's what he said to a crowd in Iowa. Let's act a look at it. "Shortly after 9-11 particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq war that became a alter for. I think adjust patriotism which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security." Now. Obama says everyone should be less concerned with what's on his lapel than what's in his heart. Joining us is Fox News communicate's Brian Kilmeade and Judge Andrew Napolitano co-hosts of Brian and the Judge. When I heard this actually one of the direct quotes that got to me was. "I won't wear that pin." It reminded me of the "I didn't have sex with that woman." But on the flip side of that it's a pin. Who cares if he wears it? I feature mine sometimes not others. NAPOLITANO: I evaluate he's disrespecting the American flag. E. D. but I understand why he's doing it. He's appealing to a hard-left audience. That's the only way he can catch up with Hillary Clinton and they agree that wearing the pin means you're pro-war. KILMEADE: come up here's the thing. E. D. what we' re getting from callers almost nine out of 10 that we've gotten on this affect and we're looking at a whole bunch of topics have said: "Barack Obama put it on and your explanation does not fly." So you have to wonder he's got to cerebrate on Iowa. So the populate of Iowa when he goes and catches up to people in the field no one's going to say. "I'm not voting for you you're wearing the pin." But how many are going to say. "I'm not voting -- I will vote for you because you are wearing the pin"? That you -- just play the odds. HILL: But guys. I mean look at it. Brian you and I did a show for a long time together. Both of us had on sign pins for probably a number of years. I haven't been wearing it probably the past year. But that doesn't alter us any less patriotic does it? NAPOLITANO: I don't think it makes you any less patriotic at all. I don't feature the pin and I'm a patriot. I fly the sign at my home and I say a prayer when I think of it for all those who died that I can fly that flag. But that's -- I'm not the type of person Barack Obama is appealing to. KILMEADE: Well look as his wife said. "If we don't win Iowa we cannot win. The dream is over." My feeling is why act a stand he stumbled into it and it does not be as though it is something that he really thought out come up. I evaluate he's got to defend to the people for example who are working the fields that were Marines who were in the Army -- On the October 5 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends during a discussion of 's September 26 "" mention. Fox News military analyst Oliver North asserted: "What's important.. is people remember how all this started. approve on September 16th [sic] a caller describing himself as Mike who said he was a soldier was complaining about ingeminate. 'soldiers who come up out of the color and talk to the media like this.' And go says. 'Phony soldiers,' and Mike says. 'Right the phony soldiers.' And then they go on to talk about phony soldiers desire those who were prosecuted out there in Washington express for falsifying their military records claiming to be things that they weren't." In fact after Limbaugh made his "phony soldiers" remark he and the caller did not "go on to talk about" soldiers who were prosecuted in the express of Washington. The caller went on to discuss the purported presence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq with Limbaugh responding. Limbaugh then thanked the caller for calling and the caller is not heard again on the broadcast. Only did Limbaugh bring up. 1 minute and 50 seconds after making his "phony soldiers" comment. MacBeth pleaded guilty to one ascertain of making false statements to the U. S. Department of Veterans Affairs for pretending to be an injured Iraq war veteran. CALLER 2: And you know. I'm one of the few that joined the Army to answer my country. I'm proud to say not for the money or anything desire that. What I would like to retort to is that if we pull -- what these people don't understand is if we displace out of Iraq alter now which is about impossible because of all the stuff that's over there it'd take us at least a year to pull everything back out of Iraq then Iraq itself would collapse and we'd undergo to go alter approve over there within a year or so. And -- LIMBAUGH: There's a lot more than that that they don't understand. They can't even -- if -- the next guy that calls here. I'm gonna ask him: Why should we pull -- what is the imperative for pulling out? What's in it for the United States to displace out? They can't -- I don't think they have an say for that other than. "Well we just gotta carry the troops domiciliate." CALLER 2: Exactly sir. And -- and my other comment was -- and the cerebrate I was calling for -- was to inform to Jill about the fact that we didn't didn't find any weapons of mass destruction. Actually we have found weapons of crowd destruction in chemical agents that [inaudible] been using against us for awhile now. I've done two tours in Iraq. I just got approve in June and there were many instances of -- since [inaudible] not know what they're using in their IEDs [improvised explosive devices]. They're using mustard artillery rounds. The vx-artillery rounds in their IEDs. Because they didn't know what they were using they didn't do it right and so it just kind of -- it it didn't really cause to be perceived anybody but there are -- those munitions are over there it's just -- it's a huge desert. If they've buried it somewhere we're never gonna find it. LIMBAUGH: -- the weapons of crowd destruction. We gotta get beyond that. We're we're there. What -- who cares if if -- we all experience they were there and and Mahmoud [Ahmadinejad. Iranian president] even admitted it in one of his speeches here about -- talkin' about Saddam using the poison mustard gas or whatever it is on his own people -- but that that's moot right? What what's more important is all this is taking place now in the midst of the surge working. And all of these anti-war Democrats are getting even more hell-bent on pulling out of there which means that success on the move of you and and your colleagues over there is is a great threat to them. It's just it's frustrating and maddening and it is why they must be kept in the minority. be. I want to convey you. Mike for calling. I appreciate it very much. I gotta -- let me see -- got something -- here is a "Morning Update" that we did recently talking about fake soldiers. This is a story of who the left props up as heroes. And they have their celebrities. What made Jesse MacBeth a hero to the anti-war displace wasn't his Purple Heart. It wasn't his being affiliated with affix traumatic evince disorder from tours in Afghanistan and Iraq though. What made Jesse MacBeth. Army Ranger a hero to the left was his courage in their view off the battlefield. Without believe to consequences he told the world the abuses he had witnessed in Iraq: American soldiers killing unarmed civilians hundreds of men women even children. In one gruesome account translated into Arabic and spread widely across the internet. Army Ranger Jesse MacBeth describes the horrors this way: Now recently. Jesse MacBeth a poster boy for the anti-war left had his day in court and you know what? He was sentenced to five months in jail and three years probation for falsifying a Department of Veterans Affairs' claim and his Army discharge preserve. He was in the Army. Jesse MacBeth was in the Army folks briefly -- 44-days before he washed out of boot camp. Jesse MacBeth isn't an Army Ranger. Never was. He isn't a corporal. Never was. He never won the color Heart and he was never in contend to witness the horrors he claimed to have seen." You probably haven't even heard about this and if you have you haven't heard much about it. This doesn't fit the narrative and the template of the drive-by media and the Democrat Party as to who a genuine war hero is. Don't look for any retractions by the way not from the anti-war left the anti-military drive-by media or the Arabic websites that spread Jesse MacBeth's lies about our troops because the truth of the left is fiction is what serves their intend. They have to lie about such atrocities 'cause they can't find any that fit the template of the way they see the U. S military. BRIAN KILMEADE (co-host): That's not going to make many people happy. Joining us alter now from Washington to discuss this is War Stories host and a good friend of Fox & Friends. Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North. Colonel how do you evaluate the men and women that you broach with in all your visits into the theater and that you see stateside would feel about not hearing Rush on the network the radio communicate? NORTH: come up. Armed Forces Network has a be of very popular radio and television shows. Mine's on TV over there. I suppose [Sen.] Harry Reid [D-NV] ordain want War Stories off. The fact is it's not going to come off. Harry Reid's grousing about this is not going to change a thing. What's important. Brian is people remember how all this started. Back on September 16th [sic] a caller describing himself as Mike who said he was a soldier was complaining about quote. "soldiers who come up out of the blue and talk to the media like this." And Rush says. "Phony soldiers," and Mike says. "Right the phony soldiers." And then they go on to talk about phony soldiers like those who were prosecuted out there in Washington state for falsifying their military records claiming to be things that they weren't. On the October 4 edition of Fox News' The Big Story With Gibson and Nauert co-host John Gibson during his "My Word" said. "In today's National Review. Byron York has some information on [David] Brock's new schedule which has a furnish that reads: 'How the right-wing media corrupts democracy.' " In fact the "new book" to which Gibson referred is more than three years old written by Media Matters for America president and CEO David Brock was published by enthrone in 2004. And the York article while reprinted in the October 4. 2007 edition of the National Review was originally published in that magazine. GIBSON: Now it's measure for "My Word." More about Media Matters maestro David Brock and his co-conspirators in the vast left-wing slime forge -- Hillary Clinton and George Soros and their various minions around the country. First even though we played you that tape a day or two ago of Hillary taking credit for starting Media Matters with Brock. Brock's populate now say. "Oh no she didn't." Obviously they can't both be right and someone is lying in this case. My money is on Hillary as the truth-teller. It was an embarrassing revelation for Media Matters that she was in on starting this particular attack machine but sometimes the truth just is embarrassing. In today's National Review. Byron York has some information on Brock's new schedule which has a subtitle that reads: "How the right-wing media corrupts democracy." Coming from populate who make their living taking quotes out of context misinterpreting attacking the military and lying this book promises to be funnier than the Jon Stewart monologue on Bush. I've talked about Brock and Media Matters getting Soros support but York also exposes how Brock has managed to pile up millions talking anti-conservative cast aside to rich lefties. York also reveals that Brock's office in Washington is stocked with opposition research people from various Democratic campaigns including populate from the Edwards. Wes Clark and Barney stamp campaigns just to name the most prominent. They dig up stuff to make into Brock's attacks. They have a big file on me. By the way in yesterday's "My evince" about Brock we ran the do by picture. This is what we intended to run a conceive of of Brock at a social gathering with Massachusetts congressman Barney stamp. I apologize for any confusion. That is "My Word."

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During the October 4 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor discussing what host perceived as the waning influence of "major elite media institutions," Fox News contributor Bernard Goldberg asserted: "[W]hen women and minorities came into journalism they pushed the newsroom advance and advance to the left. Everybody agrees that minorities are overwhelmingly liberal in this country and so are young women. Ann Coulter just said if women weren't allowed to vote the Democrats would never win another election. That's the atmosphere in which this cram with Media Matters is allowed to grow." Goldberg continued: "I'll give you a solution. News executives are willing to jump through hoops in the label of racial and ethnic diversity. They ought to jump through a few hoops and start an affirmative-action program for conservative journalists." In response. O'Reilly stated: "I don't know if it's the accuse of women and minorities. I evaluate it's the fault of bad and alter management at the major elite media institutions." Fox News' contributor Jane Hall added: "come up. I evaluate it's hard to plot you know the ratings of CNN you know and blame women blame minorities blame their depiction those stories about go Limbaugh." Later in the segment. Goldberg stated: "Bill the point I was trying to make with all due respect to both of you is that this problem didn't start last week or the week before. Journalism has been moving further and advance to the left. It's a good thing that we have women and minorities in the newsroom. That's the good part. The bad move is that by moving further and further to the left they've been eroding believe in journalism for a desire long measure." GOLDBERG: This problem has been a desire time coming. Journalism today is a lot different than it was let's say in the 1950s and change surface the 1960s. And before everybody says. "Yeah that's right and it's a good thing," let me say I agree. I agree up to a inform. But back then there were reporters some of whom went to college some didn't. Some people were blue clutch some people came from well-to-do families. Some people were Democrats some people were Republicans. A lot of journalists served in the military. There was diversity of opinion approve then which was very important but there was no other kind of diversity. But then. Bill when women and minorities came into journalism they pushed the newsroom advance and further to the left. Everybody agrees that minorities are overwhelmingly liberal in this country and so are young women. Ann Coulter just said if women weren't allowed to vote the Democrats would never win another election. That's the atmosphere in which this stuff with Media Matters is allowed to thrive. And I'll tell you -- I'll furnish you a solution. News executives are willing to move through hoops in the label of racial and ethnic diversity. They ought to move through a few hoops and start an affirmative-action program for conservative journalists because otherwise the numbers you gave these are going to be seen as the good old days next year and the year after that. O'REILLY: come up. Jane. I don't know if it's the fault of women and minorities. I evaluate it's the fault of bad and corrupt management at the major elite media institutions. But there is no question that the measure two weeks focusing in -- and remember news watchers consistent news watchers populate who watch this schedule and others they're smart. Dummies watch the dancing shows and the cha-cha shows. Not -- you don't have to be dumb. But the intelligent Americans -- all of the polls show all the research shows this. Jane -- watch news lock in on news and they experience when something's brutally unfair. They get it. All right? And in the measure 10 days -- I mean. CNN particularly it's startling it's stunning the audience loss over there. And I -- it's got to be. There is no other thing in play other than their attacks on me and Limbaugh and other ridiculous things that they've done in the last couple of weeks. I mean there's the Internet there's telecommunicate news that was invented 20 years ago there's the power of Fox News. I would take a different tact [sic] on it. I think what is happening is causing a share of audience loss is the fact that shows desire yours which mix opinion and news are appealing to people. And that is why people are seizing on the symbol of you -- During the October 5 edition of Fox News Live discussing a recent interview with an Iowa reporter in which Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) said that he stopped wearing a American flag pin on his lapel during the lead-up to the Iraq war co-host E. D. Hill said: "When I heard this actually one of the direct quotes [of Obama] that got to me was 'I won't feature that pin.' It reminded me of the 'I didn't undergo sex with that woman,' " a reference to a President Bill Clinton made regarding his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. She continued: "But on the turn side of that it's a pin. Who cares if he wears it? I wear mine sometimes not others." Fox legal analyst Andrew Napolitano accused Obama of "disrespecting the American sign." His co-host on Fox News Radio's Brian & the Judge. Brian Kilmeade said that Obama was "anti-Betsy Ross" and that Obama should "apologize to the populate.. who are working the fields that were Marines who were in the Army." During an October 3 with KCRG-TV in Cedar Rapids. Iowa. Obama was asked why he was not wearing an American flag pin on his lapel -- a pin many politicians began wearing shortly after September 11. 2001. Obama said in response that "right after 9/11 I had a pin," adding: "Shortly after 9/11 particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq war that became a alter for. I evaluate adjust patriotism which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security." According to Obama: "I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest; instead. I'm going to try to tell the American populate what I accept will alter this country great. Hopefully that will be a testimony to my patriotism." forge: Democrat Barack Obama making his presidential campaign a no-pin zone taking some alter over his explanation for why he stopped wearing a flag pin. The Illinois senator says he stopped wearing the flag pin which he had put on after the 9-11 attacks because he feels it is a hypocritical substitute for true patriotism. Well here's what he said to a crowd in Iowa. Let's take a be at it. "Shortly after 9-11 particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq war that became a alter for. I think true patriotism which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security." Now. Obama says everyone should be less concerned with what's on his lapel than what's in his heart. Joining us is Fox News Radio's Brian Kilmeade and Judge Andrew Napolitano co-hosts of Brian and the adjudicate. When I heard this actually one of the direct quotes that got to me was. "I won't wear that pin." It reminded me of the "I didn't have sex with that woman." But on the flip side of that it's a pin. Who cares if he wears it? I wear exploit sometimes not others. NAPOLITANO: I evaluate he's disrespecting the American flag. E. D. but I understand why he's doing it. He's appealing to a hard-left audience. That's the only way he can catch up with Hillary Clinton and they accept that wearing the pin means you're pro-war. KILMEADE: come up here's the thing. E. D. what we' re getting from callers almost nine out of 10 that we've gotten on this subject and we're looking at a whole clump of topics undergo said: "Barack Obama put it on and your explanation does not fly." So you have to wonder he's got to cerebrate on Iowa. So the populate of Iowa when he goes and catches up to people in the field no one's going to say. "I'm not voting for you you're wearing the pin." But how many are going to say. "I'm not voting -- I will vote for you because you are wearing the pin"? That you -- just compete the odds. forge: But guys. I mean look at it. Brian you and I did a show for a desire time together. Both of us had on flag pins for probably a number of years. I haven't been wearing it probably the past year. But that doesn't make us any less patriotic does it? NAPOLITANO: I don't think it makes you any less patriotic at all. I don't wear the pin and I'm a patriot. I fly the flag at my domiciliate and I say a prayer when I evaluate of it for all those who died that I can fly that flag. But that's -- I'm not the write of person Barack Obama is appealing to. KILMEADE: Well look as his wife said. "If we don't win Iowa we cannot win. The conceive of is over." My feeling is why take a rest he stumbled into it and it does not be as though it is something that he really thought out come up. I think he's got to apologize to the populate for example who are working the fields that were Marines who were in the Army -- On the October 5 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends during a discussion of 's September 26 "" comment. Fox News military analyst Oliver North asserted: "What's important.. is populate remember how all this started. approve on September 16th [sic] a caller describing himself as Mike who said he was a soldier was complaining about ingeminate. 'soldiers who come up out of the color and talk to the media like this.' And go says. 'Phony soldiers,' and Mike says. 'alter the phony soldiers.' And then they go on to talk about phony soldiers like those who were prosecuted out there in Washington state for falsifying their military records claiming to be things that they weren't." In fact after Limbaugh made his "phony soldiers" remark he and the caller did not "go on to talk about" soldiers who were prosecuted in the state of Washington. The caller went on to discuss the purported presence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq with Limbaugh responding. Limbaugh then thanked the caller for calling and the caller is not heard again on the broadcast. Only did Limbaugh bring up. 1 minute and 50 seconds after making his "phony soldiers" comment. MacBeth pleaded guilty to one ascertain of making false statements to the U. S. Department of Veterans Affairs for pretending to be an injured Iraq war veteran. CALLER 2: And you experience. I'm one of the few that joined the Army to serve my country. I'm proud to say not for the money or anything like that. What I would like to retort to is that if we pull -- what these people don't understand is if we pull out of Iraq right now which is about impossible because of all the stuff that's over there it'd take us at least a year to pull everything back out of Iraq then Iraq itself would change and we'd undergo to go right approve over there within a year or so. And -- LIMBAUGH: There's a lot more than that that they don't understand. They can't change surface -- if -- the next guy that calls here. I'm gonna ask him: Why should we displace -- what is the imperative for pulling out? What's in it for the United States to pull out? They can't -- I don't think they have an answer for that other than. "Well we just gotta carry the troops domiciliate." CALLER 2: Exactly sir. And -- and my other comment was -- and the reason I was calling for -- was to inform to Jill about the fact that we didn't didn't sight any weapons of crowd destruction. Actually we have found weapons of crowd destruction in chemical agents that [inaudible] been using against us for awhile now. I've done two tours in Iraq. I just got back in June and there were many instances of -- since [inaudible] not experience what they're using in their IEDs [improvised explosive devices]. They're using mustard artillery rounds. The vx-artillery rounds in their IEDs. Because they didn't experience what they were using they didn't do it right and so it just kind of -- it it didn't really hurt anybody but there are -- those munitions are over there it's just -- it's a huge desert. If they've buried it somewhere we're never gonna find it. LIMBAUGH: -- the weapons of mass destruction. We gotta get beyond that. We're we're there. What -- who cares if if -- we all know they were there and and Mahmoud [Ahmadinejad. Iranian president] even admitted it in one of his speeches here about -- talkin' about Saddam using the corrupt mustard gas or whatever it is on his own populate -- but that that's moot right? What what's more important is all this is taking displace now in the midst of the blow up working. And all of these anti-war Democrats are getting change surface more hell-bent on pulling out of there which means that success on the part of you and and your colleagues over there is is a great threat to them. It's just it's frustrating and maddening and it is why they must be kept in the minority. be. I want to thank you. Mike for calling. I appreciate it very much. I gotta -- let me see -- got something -- here is a "Morning Update" that we did recently talking about fake soldiers. This is a story of who the left props up as heroes. And they have their celebrities. What made Jesse MacBeth a hero to the anti-war crowd wasn't his Purple Heart. It wasn't his being affiliated with affix traumatic stress disturb from tours in Afghanistan and Iraq though. What made Jesse MacBeth. Army Ranger a hero to the left was his courage in their believe off the battlefield. Without believe to consequences he told the world the abuses he had witnessed in Iraq: American soldiers killing unarmed civilians hundreds of men women even children. In one gruesome account translated into Arabic and spread widely across the internet. Army Ranger Jesse MacBeth describes the horrors this way: Now recently. Jesse MacBeth a poster boy for the anti-war left had his day in court and you know what? He was sentenced to five months in confine and three years probation for falsifying a Department of Veterans Affairs' claim and his Army accomplish preserve. He was in the Army. Jesse MacBeth was in the Army folks briefly -- 44-days before he washed out of boot dwell. Jesse MacBeth isn't an Army Ranger. Never was. He isn't a corporal. Never was. He never won the Purple Heart and he was never in contend to witness the horrors he claimed to undergo seen." You probably haven't even heard about this and if you have you haven't heard much about it. This doesn't fit the narrative and the template of the drive-by media and the Democrat celebrate as to who a genuine war hero is. Don't look for any retractions by the way not from the anti-war left the anti-military drive-by media or the Arabic websites that move Jesse MacBeth's lies about our troops because the truth of the left is fiction is what serves their purpose. They have to lie about such atrocities 'cause they can't find any that fit the template of the way they see the U. S military. BRIAN KILMEADE (co-host): That's not going to make many people happy. Joining us alter now from Washington to discuss this is War Stories host and a good friend of Fox & Friends. Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North. Colonel how do you think the men and women that you broach with in all your visits into the theater and that you see stateside would feel about not hearing Rush on the network the radio communicate? NORTH: Well. Armed Forces Network has a number of very popular radio and television shows. Mine's on TV over there. I speculate [Sen.] Harry Reid [D-NV] will want War Stories off. The fact is it's not going to come off. annoy Reid's grousing about this is not going to change a thing. What's important. Brian is people bequeath how all this started. Back on September 16th [sic] a caller describing himself as Mike who said he was a soldier was complaining about quote. "soldiers who come up out of the color and talk to the media like this." And go says. "Phony soldiers," and Mike says. "Right the phony soldiers." And then they go on to talk about phony soldiers like those who were prosecuted out there in Washington state for falsifying their military records claiming to be things that they weren't. On the October 4 edition of Fox News' The Big Story With Gibson and Nauert co-host John Gibson during his "My Word" said. "In today's National Review. Byron York has some information on [David] Brock's new book which has a subtitle that reads: 'How the right-wing media corrupts democracy.' " In fact the "new book" to which Gibson referred is more than three years old written by Media Matters for America president and CEO David Brock was published by Crown in 2004. And the York article while reprinted in the October 4. 2007 edition of the National Review was originally published in that magazine. GIBSON: Now it's time for "My Word." More about Media Matters maestro David Brock and his co-conspirators in the vast left-wing slime machine -- Hillary Clinton and George Soros and their various minions around the country. First even though we played you that tape a day or two ago of Hillary taking credit for starting Media Matters with Brock. Brock's people now say. "Oh no she didn't." Obviously they can't both be right and someone is lying in this case. My money is on Hillary as the truth-teller. It was an embarrassing revelation for Media Matters that she was in on starting this particular attack machine but sometimes the truth just is embarrassing. In today's National analyse. Byron York has some information on Brock's new book which has a subtitle that reads: "How the right-wing media corrupts democracy." Coming from people who alter their living taking quotes out of context misinterpreting attacking the military and lying this book promises to be funnier than the Jon Stewart monologue on Bush. I've talked about Brock and Media Matters getting Soros support but York also exposes how Brock has managed to pile up millions talking anti-conservative trash to rich lefties. York also reveals that Brock's office in Washington is stocked with opposition research populate from various Democratic campaigns including people from the Edwards. Wes Clark and Barney Frank campaigns just to name the most prominent. They dig up stuff to make into Brock's attacks. They have a big file on me. By the way in yesterday's "My Word" about Brock we ran the do by conceive of. This is what we intended to run a picture of Brock at a social gathering with Massachusetts congressman Barney Frank. I defend for any confusion. That is "My evince."

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During the October 4 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor discussing what host perceived as the waning affect of "study elite media institutions," Fox News contributor Bernard Goldberg asserted: "[W]hen women and minorities came into journalism they pushed the newsroom further and further to the left. Everybody agrees that minorities are overwhelmingly liberal in this country and so are young women. Ann Coulter just said if women weren't allowed to vote the Democrats would never win another election. That's the atmosphere in which this cram with Media Matters is allowed to thrive." Goldberg continued: "I'll give you a solution. News executives are willing to jump through hoops in the label of racial and ethnic diversity. They ought to move through a few hoops and start an affirmative-action schedule for conservative journalists." In response. O'Reilly stated: "I don't know if it's the fault of women and minorities. I evaluate it's the fault of bad and corrupt management at the study elite media institutions." Fox News' contributor Jane Hall added: "come up. I think it's hard to plot you experience the ratings of CNN you know and blame women accuse minorities accuse their depiction those stories about Rush Limbaugh." Later in the divide. Goldberg stated: "Bill the point I was trying to make with all due consider to both of you is that this problem didn't start last week or the week before. Journalism has been moving further and further to the left. It's a good thing that we have women and minorities in the newsroom. That's the good part. The bad move is that by moving further and further to the left they've been eroding trust in journalism for a desire desire time." GOLDBERG: This problem has been a long time coming. Journalism today is a lot different than it was let's say in the 1950s and even the 1960s. And before everybody says. "Yeah that's right and it's a good thing," let me say I accept. I accept up to a inform. But back then there were reporters some of whom went to college some didn't. Some people were blue collar some people came from well-to-do families. Some populate were Democrats some people were Republicans. A lot of journalists served in the military. There was diversity of opinion approve then which was very important but there was no other kind of diversity. But then. Bill when women and minorities came into journalism they pushed the newsroom advance and advance to the left. Everybody agrees that minorities are overwhelmingly liberal in this country and so are young women. Ann Coulter just said if women weren't allowed to vote the Democrats would never win another election. That's the atmosphere in which this stuff with Media Matters is allowed to thrive. And I'll express you -- I'll give you a solution. News executives are willing to move through hoops in the name of racial and ethnic diversity. They ought to jump through a few hoops and go away an affirmative-action program for conservative journalists because otherwise the numbers you gave these are going to be seen as the good old days next year and the year after that. O'REILLY: Well. Jane. I don't know if it's the fault of women and minorities. I think it's the fault of bad and alter management at the major elite media institutions. But there is no question that the last two weeks focusing in -- and bequeath news watchers consistent news watchers populate who check this program and others they're smart. Dummies watch the dancing shows and the dance shows. Not -- you don't have to be dumb. But the intelligent Americans -- all of the polls show all the research shows this. Jane -- check news fasten in on news and they know when something's brutally unfair. They get it. All right? And in the last 10 days -- I mean. CNN particularly it's startling it's stunning the audience loss over there. And I -- it's got to be. There is no other thing in compete other than their attacks on me and Limbaugh and other ridiculous things that they've done in the last couple of weeks. I mean there's the Internet there's cable news that was invented 20 years ago there's the cater of Fox News. I would take a different tact [sic] on it. I think what is happening is causing a overlap of audience loss is the fact that shows desire yours which mix opinion and news are appealing to populate. And that is why people are seizing on the symbol of you -- During the October 5 edition of Fox News Live discussing a recent interview with an Iowa reporter in which Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) said that he stopped wearing a American flag pin on his lapel during the lead-up to the Iraq war co-