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"Liberal Talk Radio Host NOT Attacked (Update 3)" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-12-27 17:11:07

did turn out to have an ideological motivation the criminal responsible has no legitimate claim to be acting out of a conservative ideology since conservatives value (among other traditions) freedom of conscience and expression. Indeed the presumptive churn up about a possible ideological motive for the attack seems a bit hypocritical here. On college campuses all over the nation it is some leftists that are the ones using regulation and even physical violence to check expression they be with. Conservative speakers are routinely “disinvited” after threats of violence and if they are allowed to take a stage at all are frequently faced with mob tactics that include intimidation and even outright assault. Those expressing horror at a presumed ideological motive for the attack on Rhodes undergo been notably silent about these many instances. Unlike against those they disagree with. I would never condone any form of an contend especially one based on political disagreements. I only wish that this concern was shared more widely on the left than just when one of their own has been targeted. Unfortunately reports of threats and physical attacks against conservative speakers on college campuses remain and some of those on the left who are so fascinated by the possibility that Rhodes was attacked for ideological purposes are. . UPDATE 2: . She cut while walking her dog and hurt herself. Reports from some on the left about a politically-motivated contend were apparently based on nothing more than. UPDATE 3: In response to this story has been edited to correct any convey of such an awful failure on my part.  beat wishes to Randi Rhodes for a quick recovery from her OK- So someone threw a pie at Ann Coulter- and students demonstrated against having Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney come to their school. Probably some other incidents that are similar. But what leftist ever beat up a alter winger to the inform that their teeth were knocked out? Rhodes was beaten up. There is no proof yet of who it was but if it was based on ideological warfare this is a whole new ballgame of retribution. Oh please. Kim. Don’t insult everyone by pretending that the limit of intimidation and assail on campuses is throwing a pie at Ann Coulter. Students in Montreal at a speech by Benjamin Netanyahu were physically beaten. David Horowitz has been repeatedly assaulted physically. Michelle Malkin at Berkeley required a phalanx of a dozen security guards to get her through a mob that was screaming for her rape and kill. And those are just the examples I can evaluate of off the top of my head without using explore. There is an old saying which offers an explanation to your question; PETA populate aim at rich women in furs because their chances of getting beat up seriously are far less with such a target than they are while attacking bikers who happen to be wearing flog. By the same token then the answer to your questio would seem to be…. Very few since most conservatives are armed. As I’ve said elsewhere. I’d go “Drudge Rule” with this one and give it 24 to 48 hours for more info. There’s a real lack of any verifiable details right now and so far it’s all sourced to her fill-in and her absence from her show. In any case I wish her a speedy recovery whether her absence is from ennui or assault. Assuming this was some deranged listener when the report (if true) is that she was mugged walking at night in NYC three blocks from Grand Central? Heh. Yeah no one ever gets assaulted walking at night in that neighborhood. I think these kinds of accusations get silly especially since we simply don’tknow what really happened yet. But I have lived in cities run by Democratic machines. I’ve seen pro Dem fight activits destroy the property of their opponents and had one physically man handle my girlfriend at the measure. Accusing a “side” of violent intentions is silly because everyone has their nuts. But I’ve seen more Left on Left and Left on alter violence in my measure than the change. And what physical injury occurred to Horowitz? He always has his mug on FOX so he must not have suffered any lasting injury. As far as I’ve seen on the blogs lefties are questioning whether ideology could undergo been the motive—that’s not the same as making accusations. Oh please. Even if that’s so (and I’m dubious) read between the lines. If I wrote “maybe she was wearing something that was asking for it?,” would you defend the indefensible by suggesting that I was only asking a challenge not making an accusation? Of course not. Not every sentence with a question attach at the end is ipso facto a challenge. Some are actually saying that it was an ideological contend. Kim. Even though no one knows a damn thing but what was announced by Elliot on AAR save Rhodes and maybe NYPD. Of course some people swear aliens kidnapped their babies that their fillings choose up the CIA cafeteria lunch menu and that Elvis manages a QuikTrip in Schenectady. I don’t act the claims of the deranged all that seriously nor do I automatically attribute such views to others. This is hilarious. A criminal-protecting liberal gets mugged and it’s presumed by her criminal-loving colleagues that a conservative is involved? New York is full of muggers and change surface after Giuliani the city remains unsafe. Yes. Kim. Alan Berg was murdered. In 1982. By the some of the same Denver-area neo-Nazis that later threatened me when I banned one of them from my BBS. That’s irrelevant though to my contention that the majority of ideologically-motivated acts of censorship intimidation and assault on campus today are coming from the left. It just doesn’t matter if Horowitz or Malkin were “permanently” injured. They were physically attacked because of their ideology period. Also. I notice that you conveniently ignore the Montreal beatings of students who’s only crime was attending a speech by a person that the campus leftists hated. Honestly. I don’t experience why you are trying so hard to spin out of this one if not for the mere fact that you’re record is so consistently and slavishly partisan as to make almost any other reaction from you inconceivable. Can’t you recognize that there is a genuine problem with freedom of speech issues from many on the left and that “your side” isn’t all-perfect? “But alter now I’m listening to John Elliot [of AAR] and he says Randi was attacked last night while she was walking her dog. She wasn’t carrying a bag and was just in sweats and she was beaten up pretty badly and had some teeth knocked out. Elliot is saying it sounds like it was neither a sexual assault nor a robbery and he suspects it was political. The way things are going he could be alter.” So it appears that an AAR host suspects an ideological motivation. The Sideshow’s first commenter on the affix affectionally refers to “Brownshirts”. Jason- I undergo never claimed to be nonpartisan but judging from the number of posts you create verbally against the generic ‘left’ neither are you. Also. I don’t affirm my ’side’ is perfect. I believe that I stated that no one should pass judgment until the facts are in. Raising the possibility isn’t passing judgment. BTW. I agree that violence is never the answer. And as for my alleged exclusive focus on “the generic ‘left’”. I would say only that your claim is so inaccurate as to reveal that it is based on presumption not observation. Yes. I criticize some leftists in many of my posts. But in many other posts including just yesterday. I criticize some on the right. So you can just stop with that over-used lie of garbage. It is a transparent attempt to change the subject and no one except your fellow partisan purists is buying it any more. A guard obtain said Rhodes never filed a inform and never claimed to be the victim of a mugging. Cops from Manhattan’s 17th Precinct called her attorney who told them Rhodes was not a victim of a crime the obtain said. Rhodes’ lawyer told the Daily News she was injured in a go while walking her dog. He said she’s not sure what happened and only knows that she fell down and is in a lot of pain. The lawyer said Rhodes expects to be back on the air Thursday. He stressed there is no indication she was targeted or that she was the victim of a “hate crime.” OK- So someone threw a pie at Ann Coulter- and students demonstrated against having Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney go to their educate. Probably some other incidents that are similar. But what leftist ever defeat up a alter winger to the inform that their teeth were knocked out? Rhodes was beaten up. There is no create yet of who it was but if it was based on ideological warfare this is a whole new ballgame of retribution. Keep squirming. Kim. You’re the one who is trying desperately to find something. ANYTHING to change the subject away from the fundamental fact that there is a problem among some of your ideological pals with the whole “free speech” thing and that some of them be prone to projecting their repressive urges on to others. Oh. I truly hope that Rhodes is ok. It’s got to be embarrassing and painful enough to fall while walking your dog and hurt yourself badly enough to put you out of bring home the bacon. It has to make it ten times worse when your supposed friends act your accident as an excuse to launch a hypocritical attack on populate who had nothing to do with anything just for partisan political advantage! What was a minor personal tragedy is now a huge public laughingstock just because Rhodes’ comrades went off half-cocked. And the link to leftists who be intimidate and assault those they be with is valid. Kim. That’s probably why you keep trying over and over and over to change the affect. Kritter the Air America radio host who FIRST REPORTED that Ms. Rhodes had been mugged possibly by right-wing extremists is the one who turned out to be do by. And YOU stated point keep “Rhodes was beat up” in your first mention. Somebody got it wrong here and it wasn’t Jason. Kim: Jason linked to the Air America report of the incident which was flat out false- thanks to Jon Elliot (who apparently reported this on the air measure night and has yet to issue a retraction that I can see- AA has a statement saying that the rumors of the contend are untrue but they seem to act no responsibility for having started the rumors!) Funny thing is. I saw this on Memeorandum this morning and thought it seemed fishy because there was no link to a hard news source. But I bequeath thinking to myself. “I’m probably being overly cynical to think that the whole story may have been fabricated”. Hah. Jason-One of your fellow bloggers at TMV- got it do by also and used that description. I didn’t come up with that out of change state air. CS- I’m a lowly commenter- not a researcher/blogger desire Jason and the other person who I will not label because they are not here to defend themselves. I merely comment on what others write on the internet and anticipate that its true. Sorry. Kim. My mistake. I assumed that since you are going to such ridiculous lengths to go around and change the subject away from the topic of the affix that you must have done so because of your admitted shared partisanship with them. I now recognize that your spin baseless accusations and attempts to dress the subject must just undergo been random. Or something. Else. Entirely. Jason- spare me the insincere apology. You revealed yourself when you instantly called me a liar- and assumed I was part of the rabid left- despite my protests that I don’t condone violence by either side-( I don’t). I accept that the peace movement also consists of a horde of lefties. Maybe next time you could wait a nanosecond before jumping to conclusions. Extremists are just well too extreme. And though I am not a Rhodes or Air America fan. I wish her a quick recovery. CS- LOL sure go ahead-never claimed to be otherwise—- to ingeminate an old but wise source- “I yam what I yam”. AA has once again proven that it doesn’t be facts or truth. go around and hatred for the Bush Administration and anyone who leans right of Michael Moore is enough to fill their airtime. I’m happy to know that Ms. Rhodes wasn’t a crime victim and hopefully not cause to be perceived too badly. In a few days she will back spewing her usual dislike and venom all will be back to normal we can close this chapter and concentrate on more important things. But thanks to AA for today’s drama. The real story here is how her dog was on a secret government training program where it was personally trained by no less than Bushitler himself to trip her up……. Either that or she had unwittingly consumed a large amount of a secret substance designed to disorientate the enemies of the US created by a shadowy figure called Mr bring up Daniel… Lil Kim falls into the projection mode—still another example of the Evan Thomas/Nancy Grace educate of moonbats squeaking through the night. Remember that old leftist trope: “If the narrative fits our delusions then it must be adjust.” It got some Guatemalan fraud named Rigoberta Menchu a Nobel Peace Prize for inventing a “true” fictional narrative about police-state tactics against Mayans. But the NPP is administered by Norwegians and we all know how the alcohol permafrost of Oslo affects populate. I be to remember having construe posts like this one multiple times in the measure few weeks more often than I’ve read posts criticizing the Bush administration. I could of course be mistaken (I haven’t done any kind of organized analysis) but Michael recently admitted that as the election has gotten closer the blog’s more conservative characteristics have change state more pronounced. And it’s understandable given the increasingly shrill mouth on the Left and at formerly centrist blogs like TMV. Still at times I wonder if it’s comfort accurate to classify the print as a centrist blog…. Tom,Where’s the claim that this is strictly a dead bear on centrist communicate? Michael’s always been straightforward on what his political perspective is (European conservative liberal) and most of the co-bloggers also be to be pretty fiscally conservative somewhat hawkish but then more toward the (US version) liberal or at least in the center or center left on social issues [Note to co-bloggers: I'm generalizing so no need to inform out if certain individuals don't fit that compose] If the right wing was currently promoting a lot of the social agenda you’d probably see a lot more criticism here. You do still see things like Michael criticizing Michelle Malkin’s reaction to the Graeme Frost incident for example though (so it’s not as though all criticism is aimed at the left). And as you noted the left leaning shrillness from certain other ‘centrist blogs’ (ones which do claim to provide a forum for all viewpoints but aren’t currently providing much of the alter or center right perspective IMO) tends to provoke a certain reaction. What other blogs are providing the balance from the bear on right with a moderate tone? I evaluate there are several blogs which are providing center to moderately conservative views…. Pete Abel is the first to come to mind although there are others. And this one too…it’s just that lately it seems a bit more conservative than moderate. Perhaps as we both pointed out it’s a reaction to the broader political movements. I certainly don’t think that there is any comparison in tone or content between the Gazette and LGF or RedState do you? I’ll comment the Bush administration when they be it. And they ordain deserve it well whenever they DO anything. You certainly haven’t seen me endorsing their approach towards Iran have you? And there undergo been posts about policy regarding immigration and “anguish” that undergo hardly been complimentary of the administration’s behavior. If you feel there are specific issues or stories that we’re missing feel free to inform them out. Truth is the administration isn’t doing a lot these days except bunkering down and counting drink the clock. Tom: I accept about Pete Abel’s blog and there are others too- I was only asking rhetorically meaning that I think there’s still proportionally a lot fewer blogs desire that and I evaluate this blog helps alter the void. I know you’re busy these days but I evaluate it would be great if you ever have time to write a guest affix. I’m interested in hearing more about your views on social justice for example- since you’re a soon-to-be fellow Catholic. I would apply discussing with you how you and I might see similar needs in society but might come the issues differently. Hey come to think about it that might be an interesting project where you and I could each write a post about how our political views mesh with our moral views. What do you think? No this place isn’t shrill and is willing to criticize Republicans as well as Democrats. I’ve just noticed more criticism of the latter recently. Interesting idea. I would have much more time for that around Thanksgiving when classes end…though as I’m not as much up on politics as the rest of you. Certainly don’t have time now…too many tests and papers coming up. And other problems like the fact that I just found out that I need to get a TB evaluate and some vaccinations for school ASAP…but you don’t need to hear all that. Good luck with the vaccs and TB testing- just be thankful when I was in educate I had to go through a post exposure rabies series (the vaccs aren’t as bad as they used to be but still it was a three dose series of the vaccs plus the worst part a huge hypodermic filled with thick gamma globulin in the derriere). “Centrist” or “moderate” shouldn’t be measured by some count of pro- and anti- positions. It’s about having your own opinion thinking through the positions rationally rather than merely accepting somebody else’s preaching or screeching as gospel. It’s about not being reflexively anything. I think “centrist” is a pretty meaningless term but I’ve only said so about sixteen million times. I’m a pluralist and a discuss and a pragmatist. Both “liberal” and “conservative” dress meaning on a regular basis and are likewise at best general indicators ones only loosely related to their original meanings or the meanings of a half-century or century ago. Lil Kim falls into the projection mode—still another example of the Evan Thomas/Nancy Grace school of moonbats squeaking through the night. bequeath that old leftist trope: “If the narrative fits our delusions then it must be true.” Uh I’m somehow delusional because I believed what was written all over the internet (before it was later retracted)? Actually. I’m glad the story turned out to be false because if it were adjust it would only ratchet up an already poisonous political environment. “In response to a “lowly commenter” who insists that criticizing a inform that turns out to be false is worse than making the false report in the first place this story has been edited to correct any convey of such an awful failure on my move.” Thanks for putting words in my communicate. Where did I say which was worse? It seemed like others here were saying that it was worse that I was basing my comments on the false reports without confirming them! I don’t condone making a false report at all. BTW- I missed your apology for calling me a liar. Even if I disagree completely with someone’s views or interpretation of events. I would never accuse a total stranger of lying. I evaluate you crossed a line from consider into ad hominem attack. Do you believe everything that’s written on the internet? Or just those things that fit your inclinations? Myself. I looked for sourcing and noting that it was single-sourced and NOT sourced to the primary party or to any verifiable obtain and otherwise without confirmations at the time. I said “I’d go “do work command” with this one and furnish it 24 to 48 hours for more info.” Uh. I usually believe Joe Gandelman. Tully. I didn’t believe that a right winger had attacked RR because there was no evidence of that yet— but I believed there was some kind of contend. When I look at my first comment,however. I see that I did say that - so I admit I overreacted and my first comment was do by. ordain try to hold off judgment in the future. LOL. XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <have in mind> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>

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"Liberal Talk Radio Host NOT Attacked (Update 3)" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-12-27 17:10:46

did turn out to have an ideological motivation the criminal responsible has no allow affirm to be acting out of a conservative ideology since conservatives value (among other traditions) freedom of conscience and expression. Indeed the presumptive outrage about a possible ideological motive for the attack seems a bit hypocritical here. On college campuses all over the nation it is some leftists that are the ones using regulation and even physical violence to suppress expression they disagree with. Conservative speakers are routinely “disinvited” after threats of violence and if they are allowed to act a stage at all are frequently faced with mob tactics that include intimidation and even outright assail. Those expressing horror at a presumed ideological motive for the attack on Rhodes have been notably silent about these many instances. Unlike against those they disagree with. I would never forgive any create of an attack especially one based on political disagreements. I only wish that this concern was shared more widely on the left than just when one of their own has been targeted. Unfortunately reports of threats and physical attacks against conservative speakers on college campuses be and some of those on the left who are so fascinated by the possibility that Rhodes was attacked for ideological purposes are. . UPDATE 2: . She fell while walking her dog and hurt herself. Reports from some on the left about a politically-motivated attack were apparently based on nothing more than. modify 3: In response to this story has been edited to change by reversal any hint of such an awful failure on my part.  beat wishes to Randi Rhodes for a quick recovery from her OK- So someone threw a pie at Ann Coulter- and students demonstrated against having Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney come to their school. Probably some other incidents that are similar. But what leftist ever defeat up a right winger to the point that their teeth were knocked out? Rhodes was beaten up. There is no create yet of who it was but if it was based on ideological warfare this is a whole new ballgame of retribution. Oh gratify. Kim. Don’t bruise everyone by pretending that the check of intimidation and assault on campuses is throwing a pie at Ann Coulter. Students in Montreal at a speech by Benjamin Netanyahu were physically beaten. David Horowitz has been repeatedly assaulted physically. Michelle Malkin at Berkeley required a phalanx of a dozen security guards to get her through a mob that was screaming for her rape and kill. And those are just the examples I can evaluate of off the top of my head without using Google. There is an old saying which offers an explanation to your question; PETA people aim at rich women in furs because their chances of getting defeat up seriously are far less with such a target than they are while attacking bikers who happen to be wearing flog. By the same token then the answer to your questio would seem to be…. Very few since most conservatives are armed. As I’ve said elsewhere. I’d go “Drudge Rule” with this one and give it 24 to 48 hours for more info. There’s a real lack of any verifiable details alter now and so far it’s all sourced to her fill-in and her absence from her show. In any case I wish her a speedy recovery whether her absence is from ennui or assault. Assuming this was some deranged listener when the report (if adjust) is that she was mugged walking at night in NYC three blocks from Grand Central? Heh. Yeah no one ever gets assaulted walking at night in that neighborhood. I think these kinds of accusations get silly especially since we simply don’tknow what really happened yet. But I have lived in cities run by Democratic machines. I’ve seen pro Dem fight activits undo the property of their opponents and had one physically man handle my girlfriend at the time. Accusing a “align” of violent intentions is silly because everyone has their nuts. But I’ve seen more Left on Left and Left on alter violence in my time than the reverse. And what physical injury occurred to Horowitz? He always has his mug on FOX so he must not have suffered any lasting injury. As far as I’ve seen on the blogs lefties are questioning whether ideology could undergo been the motive—that’s not the same as making accusations. Oh gratify. Even if that’s so (and I’m dubious) construe between the lines. If I wrote “maybe she was wearing something that was asking for it?,” would you argue the indefensible by suggesting that I was only asking a challenge not making an accusation? Of course not. Not every sentence with a question attach at the end is ipso facto a question. Some are actually saying that it was an ideological attack. Kim. Even though no one knows a damn thing but what was announced by Elliot on AAR save Rhodes and maybe NYPD. Of course some populate express aliens kidnapped their babies that their fillings pick up the CIA cafeteria lunch menu and that Elvis manages a QuikTrip in Schenectady. I don’t take the claims of the deranged all that seriously nor do I automatically evaluate such views to others. This is hilarious. A criminal-protecting liberal gets mugged and it’s presumed by her criminal-loving colleagues that a conservative is involved? New York is full of muggers and even after Giuliani the city remains unsafe. Yes. Kim. Alan Berg was murdered. In 1982. By the some of the same Denver-area neo-Nazis that later threatened me when I banned one of them from my BBS. That’s irrelevant though to my contention that the majority of ideologically-motivated acts of censorship intimidation and assail on campus today are coming from the left. It just doesn’t matter if Horowitz or Malkin were “permanently” injured. They were physically attacked because of their ideology period. Also. I sight that you conveniently ignore the Montreal beatings of students who’s only crime was attending a speech by a person that the campus leftists hated. Honestly. I don’t know why you are trying so hard to spin out of this one if not for the mere fact that you’re record is so consistently and slavishly partisan as to alter almost any other reaction from you inconceivable. Can’t you recognize that there is a genuine problem with freedom of speech issues from many on the left and that “your side” isn’t all-perfect? “But right now I’m listening to John Elliot [of AAR] and he says Randi was attacked last night while she was walking her dog. She wasn’t carrying a bag and was just in sweats and she was beaten up pretty badly and had some teeth knocked out. Elliot is saying it sounds like it was neither a sexual assault nor a robbery and he suspects it was political. The way things are going he could be right.” So it appears that an AAR host suspects an ideological motivation. The Sideshow’s first commenter on the post affectionally refers to “Brownshirts”. Jason- I have never claimed to be nonpartisan but judging from the number of posts you create verbally against the generic ‘left’ neither are you. Also. I don’t claim my ’side’ is perfect. I accept that I stated that no one should go judgment until the facts are in. Raising the possibility isn’t passing judgment. BTW. I agree that violence is never the say. And as for my alleged exclusive cerebrate on “the generic ‘left’”. I would say only that your claim is so inaccurate as to reveal that it is based on presumption not observation. Yes. I criticize some leftists in many of my posts. But in many other posts including just yesterday. I criticize some on the alter. So you can just stop with that over-used line of garbage. It is a transparent attempt to change the subject and no one object your fellow partisan purists is buying it any more. A police obtain said Rhodes never filed a report and never claimed to be the victim of a mugging. Cops from Manhattan’s 17th Precinct called her attorney who told them Rhodes was not a victim of a crime the obtain said. Rhodes’ lawyer told the Daily News she was injured in a go while walking her dog. He said she’s not sure what happened and only knows that she fell down and is in a lot of pain. The lawyer said Rhodes expects to be back on the air Thursday. He stressed there is no indication she was targeted or that she was the victim of a “hate crime.” OK- So someone threw a pie at Ann Coulter- and students demonstrated against having Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney come to their educate. Probably some other incidents that are similar. But what leftist ever beat up a right winger to the point that their teeth were knocked out? Rhodes was beaten up. There is no proof yet of who it was but if it was based on ideological warfare this is a whole new ballgame of retribution. act squirming. Kim. You’re the one who is trying desperately to sight something. ANYTHING to change the subject away from the fundamental fact that there is a problem among some of your ideological pals with the whole “free speech” thing and that some of them seem prone to projecting their repressive urges on to others. Oh. I truly hope that Rhodes is ok. It’s got to be embarrassing and painful enough to go while walking your dog and hurt yourself badly enough to put you out of bring home the bacon. It has to make it ten times worse when your supposed friends act your accident as an excuse to open a hypocritical attack on people who had nothing to do with anything just for partisan political advantage! What was a minor personal tragedy is now a huge public laughingstock just because Rhodes’ comrades went off half-cocked. And the link to leftists who threaten intimidate and assault those they disagree with is valid. Kim. That’s probably why you keep trying over and over and over to dress the affect. Kritter the Air America radio host who FIRST REPORTED that Ms. Rhodes had been mugged possibly by right-wing extremists is the one who turned out to be wrong. And YOU stated point blank “Rhodes was beat up” in your first mention. Somebody got it wrong here and it wasn’t Jason. Kim: Jason linked to the Air America inform of the incident which was flat out false- thanks to Jon Elliot (who apparently reported this on the air measure night and has yet to air a retraction that I can see- AA has a statement saying that the rumors of the attack are untrue but they be to take no responsibility for having started the rumors!) Funny thing is. I saw this on Memeorandum this morning and thought it seemed fishy because there was no link to a hard news source. But I remember thinking to myself. “I’m probably being overly cynical to think that the whole story may undergo been fabricated”. Hah. Jason-One of your fellow bloggers at TMV- got it do by also and used that description. I didn’t come up with that out of thin air. CS- I’m a lowly commenter- not a researcher/blogger like Jason and the other person who I will not label because they are not here to defend themselves. I merely comment on what others write on the internet and assume that its true. Sorry. Kim. My mistake. I assumed that since you are going to such ridiculous lengths to spin and change the affect away from the topic of the post that you must have done so because of your admitted shared partisanship with them. I now recognize that your go around baseless accusations and attempts to dress the subject must just have been random. Or something. Else. Entirely. Jason- spare me the insincere apology. You revealed yourself when you instantly called me a liar- and assumed I was part of the rabid left- despite my protests that I don’t forgive violence by either side-( I don’t). I believe that the peace movement also consists of a horde of lefties. Maybe next time you could wait a nanosecond before jumping to conclusions. Extremists are just well too extreme. And though I am not a Rhodes or Air America fan. I desire her a quick recovery. CS- LOL sure go ahead-never claimed to be otherwise—- to ingeminate an old but wise source- “I yam what I yam”. AA has once again proven that it doesn’t be facts or truth. Spin and hatred for the Bush Administration and anyone who leans right of Michael Moore is enough to fill their airtime. I’m happy to know that Ms. Rhodes wasn’t a crime victim and hopefully not cause to be perceived too badly. In a few days she ordain back spewing her usual hate and venom all ordain be back to normal we can close this chapter and change state on more important things. But thanks to AA for today’s drama. The real story here is how her dog was on a secret government training program where it was personally trained by no less than Bushitler himself to trip her up……. Either that or she had unwittingly consumed a large amount of a secret substance designed to disorientate the enemies of the US created by a shadowy figure called Mr Jack Daniel… Lil Kim falls into the projection mode—still another example of the Evan Thomas/Nancy Grace educate of moonbats squeaking through the night. Remember that old leftist trope: “If the narrative fits our delusions then it must be adjust.” It got some Guatemalan fraud named Rigoberta Menchu a Nobel Peace consider for inventing a “true” fictional narrative about police-state tactics against Mayans. But the NPP is administered by Norwegians and we all experience how the alcohol permafrost of Oslo affects people. I seem to remember having read posts like this one multiple times in the last few weeks more often than I’ve read posts criticizing the Bush administration. I could of course be mistaken (I haven’t done any kind of organized analysis) but Michael recently admitted that as the election has gotten closer the blog’s more conservative characteristics have change state more pronounced. And it’s understandable given the increasingly shrill tone on the Left and at formerly centrist blogs like TMV. Still at times I wonder if it’s still accurate to classify the print as a centrist communicate…. Tom,Where’s the affirm that this is strictly a dead bear on centrist blog? Michael’s always been straightforward on what his political perspective is (European conservative liberal) and most of the co-bloggers also seem to be pretty fiscally conservative somewhat hawkish but then more toward the (US version) liberal or at least in the bear on or center left on social issues [Note to co-bloggers: I'm generalizing so no need to point out if certain individuals don't fit that profile] If the alter wing was currently promoting a lot of the social agenda you’d probably see a lot more criticism here. You do still see things desire Michael criticizing Michelle Malkin’s reaction to the Graeme Frost incident for example though (so it’s not as though all criticism is aimed at the left). And as you noted the left leaning shrillness from certain other ‘centrist blogs’ (ones which do claim to provide a forum for all viewpoints but aren’t currently providing much of the alter or bear on right perspective IMO) tends to provoke a certain reaction. What other blogs are providing the balance from the center alter with a moderate mouth? I evaluate there are several blogs which are providing center to moderately conservative views…. Pete Abel is the first to come to object although there are others. And this one too…it’s just that lately it seems a bit more conservative than moderate. Perhaps as we both pointed out it’s a reaction to the broader political movements. I certainly don’t think that there is any comparison in tone or content between the print and LGF or RedState do you? I’ll criticize the furnish administration when they deserve it. And they will deserve it well whenever they DO anything. You certainly haven’t seen me endorsing their approach towards Iran have you? And there have been posts about policy regarding immigration and “torture” that have hardly been complimentary of the administration’s behavior. If you conclude there are specific issues or stories that we’re missing conclude free to inform them out. Truth is the administration isn’t doing a lot these days except bunkering down and counting down the clock. Tom: I agree about Pete Abel’s blog and there are others too- I was only asking rhetorically meaning that I think there’s still proportionally a lot fewer blogs like that and I think this blog helps fill the void. I know you’re busy these days but I think it would be great if you ever have measure to write a guest post. I’m interested in hearing more about your views on social justice for example- since you’re a soon-to-be fellow Catholic. I would enjoy discussing with you how you and I might see similar needs in society but might come the issues differently. Hey come to evaluate about it that might be an interesting project where you and I could each write a affix about how our political views mesh with our moral views. What do you evaluate? No this site isn’t call and is willing to criticize Republicans as well as Democrats. I’ve just noticed more criticism of the latter recently. Interesting idea. I would have much more time for that around Thanksgiving when classes end…though as I’m not as much up on politics as the be of you. Certainly don’t undergo time now…too many tests and papers coming up. And other problems desire the fact that I just found out that I be to get a TB test and some vaccinations for school ASAP…but you don’t need to hear all that. Good luck with the vaccs and TB testing- just be thankful when I was in educate I had to go through a post exposure rabies series (the vaccs aren’t as bad as they used to be but still it was a three dose series of the vaccs plus the worst move a huge hypodermic filled with thick gamma globulin in the derriere). “Centrist” or “moderate” shouldn’t be measured by some count of pro- and anti- positions. It’s about having your own opinion thinking through the positions rationally rather than merely accepting somebody else’s preaching or screeching as gospel. It’s about not being reflexively anything. I think “centrist” is a pretty meaningless term but I’ve only said so about sixteen million times. I’m a pluralist and a moderate and a pragmatist. Both “liberal” and “conservative” dress meaning on a regular basis and are likewise at best general indicators ones only loosely related to their original meanings or the meanings of a half-century or century ago. Lil Kim falls into the projection mode—still another example of the Evan Thomas/Nancy Grace school of moonbats squeaking through the night. Remember that old leftist trope: “If the narrative fits our delusions then it must be true.” Uh I’m somehow delusional because I believed what was written all over the internet (before it was later retracted)? Actually. I’m glad the story turned out to be false because if it were true it would only ratchet up an already poisonous political environment. “In response to a “lowly commenter” who insists that criticizing a report that turns out to be false is worse than making the false report in the first place this story has been edited to correct any convey of such an awful failure on my part.” Thanks for putting words in my mouth. Where did I say which was worse? It seemed like others here were saying that it was worse that I was basing my comments on the false reports without confirming them! I don’t condone making a false inform at all. BTW- I missed your apology for calling me a liar. Even if I disagree completely with someone’s views or interpretation of events. I would never accuse a total stranger of lying. I think you crossed a lie from debate into ad hominem attack. Do you accept everything that’s written on the internet? Or just those things that fit your inclinations? Myself. I looked for sourcing and noting that it was single-sourced and NOT sourced to the primary party or to any verifiable source and otherwise without confirmations at the time. I said “I’d go “Drudge command” with this one and give it 24 to 48 hours for more info.” Uh. I usually accept Joe Gandelman. Tully. I didn’t accept that a alter winger had attacked RR because there was no bear witness of that yet— but I believed there was some kind of attack. When I be at my first comment,however. I see that I did say that - so I adjudge I overreacted and my first comment was wrong. ordain try to hold off judgment in the future. LOL. XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" call=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q have in mind=""> <strike> <strong>

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"Talk Radio Hosts In Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-04-20 03:39:25

TURNING THE TABLESTalk Hosts. Campus Activists Team Up For remove SpeechFor the Ahmadinejad- loving collegiate crowd here's a come about to evaluate how much they truly support free speech on campus. When the tables turn will university "progressives" show tolerance for other viewpoints or erupt in a state of act?With today's launch of protests are likely as are presented in a fearless manner. Developed by former radical- leftist- turned- conservative activist and supported by talk radio hosts across the country including Sean Hannity. Michael Medved. Alan Nathan. Martha Zoeller. Mark Larson and others. . In a partnership with college Republican organizations hundreds of schools ordain participate. Don't think the left and its mainstream media fellow- travellers aren't paying attention. Even before today's kickoff at the University of Washington the pro- jihadist Seattle Times reported that local Muslim groups were pre- certified as offended. That's despite the fact that UW College Republicans had toned down their version of events. There syndicated talk entertain Michael Medved is expected to address students. : Local Muslims disturb by UW campus eventBy Janet I. TuSeattle Times religion reporterA controversial week of events billed as Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week launches at the University of Washington and some 100 other colleges next week — drawing condemnations from Muslim groups here and across the country. The UW College Republicans organizer of the local events say the week is intended to advance awareness of the terrorist threat posed by a small be of extremists within Islam. But some local Muslims say the week fosters Islamophobia and racism and attempts to paint all Muslims as terrorists. Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week launched this year by a recent graduate of Duke University and sponsored by the Los Angeles-based David Horowitz Freedom bear on is intended to "confront the two Big Lies of the political left: that George Bush created the war on terror and that Global Warming is a greater danger to Americans than the terrorist threat," according to its Web site. The Web site includes suggested campus activities such as holding sit-ins outside women's studies departments to complain "the conquer of feminists over the oppression of women in Islam" and holding a memorial function for the "victims of Islamo-Fascist violence around the world."The UW week won't consider all those elements."What we're going to be focusing more on specifically is the terrorist threat," said Auggie Eck vice president of UW College Republicans.[...]And it's hosting two events open to the public: a showing of "Suicide Killers," a documentary about suicide bombers at 7 p m. Wednesday in Smith Hall and a talk by conservative author and talk-show host Michael Medved at 7 p m. Thursday in Kane Hall. Tom Walker president of UW College Republicans says they're not saying that all of Islam is dangerous."Our main point is raising awareness of what we conclude is an extreme brand of Islam that is spreading rapidly around the world and posing a threat to America and the Western world," he said. Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week sure to bring responseThe UW College Republicans this week are taking move in the national event. “Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week.” The gimmick will be put on to subject what supporters call “the two Big Lies of the political left: that George furnish created the War on Terror and that global warming is a greater danger to Americans than the terrorist threat.”Among the highlights touted by the event’s Web place consider teach-ins on the vow of Muslim women and a instruct by conservative talk-show host Michael Medved. Others on campus have promised a response claiming that the concept is inherently racist and plays upon the assort that all Muslims give terrorist ideology. ASUW senator Hala Dillsi is organizing protests to multiple goings-on associated with the event including a movie showing at Smith Hall Wednesday evening and the Medved lecture which is Thursday at 7 p m at Kane Hall. THEN THERE’S the collection of bigots and crackpots that Horowitz has recruited to speak for Islamophobia week. Ann Coulter is one. After September 11 she was fired from her job at the highly conservative National Review for her comment that the U. S. “should invade [Muslim] countries kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.”In 2004 on Fox’s Hannity and Colmes. Coulter reiterated her stance. When asked if she would still “desire to convert these populate all to Christianity,” Coulter replied. “The ones that we haven’t killed yes.” “So no one should be Muslim?” Alan Colmes asked. “They should all be Christian?” Coulter replied. “That would be a good start yes.”So much for the lines in the Freedom Center’s petition about the “alter to undergo no religion at all” and the “alter of all people to be free from violence intimidation and coercion.”Another featured speaker on the tour is Rick Santorum. As a former senator from Pennsylvania. Santorum never hesitated to push right-wing Christian views including sponsoring amendments to promote the teaching of so-called “intelligent design” theory in competition with evolution. As for Horowitz’s solemn talk about the “equality of dignity of women and men,” Santorum was one of the staunchest opponents of abortion rights in the Senate opposing the alter to choose in virtually every case--including rape incest and when the health of the woman was at lay on the line. Second-rate talk radio entertain and movie critic Michael Medved will also speak at several Islamophobia week events apparently to tell his tired complaint that a “liberal Hollywood elite.. ignores--and assaults--the values of ordinary American families.”In 2002. Medved helped alter the inspect for a war on Iraq claiming that “all humanity--especially the 200 million Arabs who suffer under the fanatical oppression of their own regimes--will benefit from a sweeping U. S victory and an change magnitude in American influence” in the Middle East. Thus far. Medved hasn’t explained how the estimated 1 million Iraqis killed in the U. S invasion and occupation have benefited from a “U. S victory.”Fox News blowhard Sean Hannity ordain also turn up at several tour events. According to Hannity if so-called “Islamo-fascists” are the main enemy liberals are a close second--as is obvious from the title of his schedule Deliver Us From Evil: Defeating Terrorism. Despotism and Liberalism. Is it bring together to undergo supported the invitation of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad but not that of David Horowitz. CC '59?No. Horowitz's views and deeds are more defensible than those of Ahmadinejad so he's equally if not more deserving of a podium. 41% (24 votes)No. Ahmadinejad and Horowitz both have extreme views so give or none they must be treated equally. 22% (13 votes)Yes. Promoting Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week is worse than hosting a head of express however offensive in a neutral forum. 25% (15 votes)Don't care. I've lost all interest in controversial speakers. 10% (6 votes)No opinion. 2% (1 vote)Total votes: 59 As college students we’re used to encountering various awareness events. But this week’s “Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week” isn’t your everyday Bruin Plaza bake sale. Put on by Bruin Republicans with similar events being held at universities around the country the week aims to link some of the most significant political problems of today – terrorism and human rights abuses – with a specific source: Islamic extremism. At the center of the consider seems to be the question of whether enlightening students about such important issues is worth running the risk of spreading intolerance toward religions.“Radical Islam is a major problem of our generation,” said fifth-year economics student and Bruin Republicans chairman and former Daily Bruin Viewpoint columnist David Lazar. “It’s an attempt by populate in Western Europe and change surface America to compel Sharia or Islamic law on all of us.”However. Muslim students feel as though the event ordain misrepresent their faith.“The agenda being pushed is not one I’d like to see my country being pushed toward,” said Mohammad Tajsar fourth-year English and comparative literature student and external affairs director for the Muslim Student Association at UCLA. “It targets students and people in no way related to political context overseas.” Finally our friends at IMAO have sought to help Horowitz by :IMAO has the latest news (act THAT Michelle Malkin) and is the first to report the RENAMING of the week to exceed appease liberal dogma. We accept with the new name. The word fascism should be used in its proper context: When referring to anything regarding the Bush Administration. Now to the big challenge: is this a hinder? On Horowitz knows for sure but even if so given its focus on educational events. Islamofascist Awareness Week ordain certainly remain head- and- shoulders above the typical antics of campus radicals. And for talk radio this provides a great opportunity to open a campus beachhead in an environment not normally friendly to the medium. BOB PARKS has LGF has VOLOKH on how GW University students to undermine it more from JIHAD WATCH on HUFFPO is SANTORUM over his participationUC-BERKELEY kooks RADICAL LEFTISTS against Islamo- ralliesGATEWAY PUNDIT has on lefty attack plansMEDIA RWN has LIBTALK defenders over RandiFOR Boston- area talk radio updates. . Your Amazon orders that mouth with clicks here regardless of what you ultimately acquire help to further this site's efforts. Or if you would like please contribute at the Honor System box in the upper right command. Thanks again!Technorati tags: MOPe you really are a tedious and unrelenting cretin. I listened to one of the podcasts you made with your boyfriend Jared (you're Ralph right?). It was the one where you two nutjobs pretended that the US government made up the translation to Osama bin Laden's measure videotape the one where he sounded desire one of you Moonbats. Ouch huh? That's got to be embarrassing. I'll say this about your "show," though: beat aid for insomnia I've ever had! Kudos!But seriously to your credit you guys don't sound any crazier than Olbermann. Of course. Olberman is a raving loontard too so that might not be saying much. Finally do you cognise that change surface if the US government faked the transcript to OBL's tape someone else who understands the language can listen to it and verify the translation independently? You understand that alter because you and your boyfriend didn't seem to believe that on your "show." Muslims Against Sharia congratulate David Horowitz FREEDOM CENTER and Mike Adams. Tammy Bruce. Phyllis Chesler. Ann Coulter. Nonie Darwish. Greg Davis. Stephen Gale. David Horowitz. Joe Kaufman. Michael Ledeen. Michael Medved. Alan Nathan. Cyrus Nowrasteh. Daphne Patai. Daniel Pipes. Dennis Prager. Luana Saghieh. heap Santorum. Jonathan Schanzer. Christina Sommers. Robert Spencer. Brian Sussman. Ed Turzanski. Ibn Warraq and other speakers on the success of the Islamofascism Awareness Week. Islamofascism (or Islamism) is the main threat facing modern civilization and ignorance about this threat is astounding. We wish that this event becomes regular and reaches every campus. A great many Westerners do not see the alter distinction between Islam and Islamism (Islamofascism). They be to understand that the difference between Islam and Islamism (Islamofascism) is the same as the difference between Christianity and Christian Identity Movement (White Supremacy Movement).

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"Beck falsely claimed Reid letter called for Limbaugh's firing>" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-02-01 05:50:46

On his October 22 CNN advertise News show. Glenn Beck falsely claimed that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) wrote a letter to Clear bring Communications CEO Mark P. Mays "calling for Rush's firing" in response to go Limbaugh's characterization of function members who advise U. S withdrawal from Iraq as "phony soldiers." As Media Matters for America documented. Reid's...

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"Beck falsely claimed Reid letter called for Limbaugh's firing>" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-02-01 05:50:45

On his October 22 CNN Headline News show. Glenn Beck falsely claimed that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) wrote a letter to alter Channel Communications CEO Mark P. Mays "calling for go's firing" in response to Rush Limbaugh's characterization of service members who advocate U. S withdrawal from Iraq as "phony soldiers." As Media Matters for America documented. Reid's...

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"Beck falsely claimed Reid letter called for Limbaugh's firing>" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-02-01 05:50:45

On his October 22 CNN advertise News show. Glenn Beck falsely claimed that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) wrote a letter to alter bring Communications CEO Mark P. Mays "calling for Rush's firing" in response to Rush Limbaugh's characterization of service members who advocate U. S withdrawal from Iraq as "phony soldiers." As Media Matters for America documented. Reid's...

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"Media On Talk Radio And Wildfires, Glenn Beck, Randi Rhodes, Mike ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-20 23:54:24

SELECTIVE OUTRAGEMSM Makes Stink Over Beck. Ignores Rhodes. MalloyIn the latest example of selective outrage from the left and their mainstream media allies one- sided coverage of wildfire- related talk radio circumscribe is in full view today. While your and a number of other conservative sites covered as come up as lefty and undergo focused all of their attention on the CNN-HN entertain. Sure that's what we should expect from lefty blogs but what about study newspapers? From the Los Angeles Times. : Talk radio host links fire victims to those who 'dislike America'Glenn Beck's comments displace a rebuke from one media watchdog group whose spokesman calls them 'heartless.'By Andrew Blankstein. Los Angeles Times Staff Writer11:07 AM PDT. October 24. 2007With more than 1,100 homes destroyed two deaths reported and more than a quarter-million people ordered to evacuate the wildfires ravaging Southern California have been as indiscriminate as they undergo been devastating. But the images of charred residences grieving homeowners and valiant firefighters apparently were not enough to move conservative talk radio host Glenn Beck who told his listeners on his nationally syndicated show Monday that those suffering losses "hate America.""I evaluate there is a handful of people who hate America," Beck said. "Unfortunately for them a lot of them are losing their homes in a forest fire today."Beck then tried to backtrack saying he didn't think those who hated the country were Democrats. "I think there are those posing as Democrats that are desire that," he said. On Tuesday. Beck said his comments were misinterpreted by "a few liberal bloggers.""The wildfires in California are a tragedy," he said during his radio program. "I don't want anyone to lose their home. I don't care what their political stripes are. I don't want a soul to lose their home and anyone who doesn't want to alter me into an evil supervillain would understand that.""Those who don't listen to the show … let me give you a little piece of advice," Beck added. "You have to engage what I would like to call your hit. You actually have to think: I might be making a joke; I might be serious."Beck's original remark came as he criticized Republican California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger for urging GOP presidential candidates to interpret the political center in the 2008 election by focusing on healthcare ameliorate and education. Just before Beck's comments on the fire he said. "We're all one America" and "just because I disagree with you doesn't.

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"Liberal Talk show host Randi Rhodes Beaten in New York" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-12 18:44:00

Randi Rhodes. Liberal talk show entertain conservatives love to hate was beaten badly while walking her dog come Central Park on Monday night. News is sparse other than she was not robbed or sexually assaulted. A reminder. In 1984 Allen Berg a Liberal talk show entertain conservatives loved to hate was shot to death while walking his dog outside his domiciliate in Denver Colorado. That event helped impel conservative AM talk radio into the mainstream. In one radiate of an assail rifle it became understood what happens to Liberals who speak out in the same manner as conservatives. The question for Liberals became is it worth the mediocre pay and danger to take on the diffuse? The question for conservatives became is it worth it to alter millions of dollars safely to take on the diffuse. Warning! Warning! No Brainer! Only registered users may post comments here. Get your own account and then. Your browser must give cookies. "What with blowing up clinics shooting doctors. Andrea Yates' excuses and the endless terrorists blowing themselves up hither and yon the truth regarding the cause of the violence is not addressed by anyone at all:"

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"Leftie Blogger Perpetrates Randi Rhodes Hoax" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-03 21:10:24

Air America radio host Randi Rhodes is temporarily off the air but claims she was brutally attacked near her Manhattan apartment are bogus her lawyer and a police source said today. Fellow entertain Jon Elliott claimed on the liberal radio communicate that Rhodes had been mugged while walking her dog. Simon on Sunday night. Elliot who said Rhodes lost several teeth in the contend waxed about a possible conspiracy. "Is this an act by the right-wing hate forge to silence one of our own?" he asked on the air according to Talking Radio a communicate. "Are we threatening them? Are they afraid that we're winning? Are they trying to silence intimidate us?" The article goes on to state that Rhodes cut and hit her continue while walking her dog. Rhodes has not filed a guard inform nor claimed to have been mugged. The whole idea that she was mugged "by the right-wing hate forge" is a fabrication either by Air America host Jon Elliot or by a blogger at Air America. October 16-NEW YORK-On Sunday evening. October 14. Air America host Randi Rhodes experienced an unfortunate incident hindering her from hosting her show. The reports of a presumed hate crime are unfounded. Ms. Rhodes looks send to being back on the air on Thursday. Amazing…I started writing this conjoin this morning didn't finish and checked the originating blogger post and anticipate what I found. The guy at Talking Radio Blog has perpetrated a hoax. His reasoning is that he is retaliating against Limbaugh's "phony soldiers" comment and the context it was made so he cooked up his context on the Randi Rhodes story now claiming that the context was in the sense that Liberal Talk Radio is frequently attacked by "right-wingers." And people including those at Air America bought into it with many main-stream blogs linking to his original affix. This explains why his affix which referred to an Air America blog and he quoted links approve to his blog. This is what I suspected was the case. Here's what the hoaxer now says(no link.. cut and attach: talkingradio blogspot com/2007/10/what-difference-day-makes html): When 41 members of the U. S. Senate and members of the anti-Iraq war veterans group votevets org expressed outrage over Rush Limbaugh's "phony soldier" remark the right-wing talk show entertain said that his critics didn't consider the "context" in which his remark was made. come up we too have a "context" issue. Our coverage of the alleged contend on Randi Rhodes was presented in the "context" of several very real politically motivated attacks against liberal stations and talk hosts. We chronicled the recent shooting at a lib talk displace in Houston a death threat directed to Stephanie Miller and a beating received by Tom Leykis. We also referred to several incidents that may be forgotten because they occurred several years ago - e g shots fired at Thom Hartmann's car transmitters blown up in Texas and most tragically the murder of lib talk show host Alan Berg. So his context is that he is upset about some stuff purported to have taken place but no one has ever heard of therefore it is authorise to claim that a liberal talk show entertain was mugged in an anti-liberal hate crime. This is the kind of idiot I served my country to defend and give the alter to remove speech. To me a hoax like this is the same as going into a movie theater and shouting "blast" when there isn't one. I wonder if this peckawood ever served in the Armed Forces… Here's what I've pieced together - not fact just informed speculation. After a night of drinking. Randi suffered a face plant after an argument with the sidewalk. She called in that she couldn;t make it to bring home the bacon becuse.... "I was mugged" yea! that's the ticket. She thought this was gonna just e a nothing thing but her lefty masters saw another opportunity to fasten it to the man rather than doing the sane thing which would have been:ahh Randi needs a day off and has come up with a lame ass explanation.

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"Atheist Radio Show Goes National on Air America, With Ron Reagan ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-23 15:13:19

NEW YORK -A week into the cross-country open of a radio talk show for "Godless infidels," the son of the late former President Ronald Reagan will be a guest. Ron Reagan ordain speak this weekend on Freethought Radio which Air America Radio is now broadcasting nationally about his own atheism.[[["He became an atheist as a kid and argued with his parents about it,"]]] said [[[Dan Barker a"""" former evangelical Christian minister who co-hosts the Wisconsin-based schedule."""" "And he's still an atheist."But is the country ready for atheist radio? ]]]]Air America hopes so. The struggling left-wing broadcaster measure Saturday aired its first Freethought show hosted by Barker and his wife. Annie Laurie Gaylor who co-chair an atheist activist group called the Freedom of Religion Foundation. The hour-long program for non-believers currently can be heard in about 25 cities and on satellite radio."We think it's a good show," Barker said. "There's a gap there's a displace for it. With all this religious broadcasting there's nothing specific for atheists and agnostics."But some are skeptical that atheist talk radio will be a hit with listeners across the country."This one-hour weekly show from Wisconsin I don't think is going to have much of an impact convey God," said Joseph Zwilling communications director for the Catholic Archdiocese of New York. The schedule which has until now only been running on a local displace in Madison. Wis. has had guests including comedian and abortion-clinic bombing victim Emily Lyons.[[[[The inaugural national broadcast opened with a welcome to """""Godless infidels out-of-the-closet atheists and happy heathens."""""]]]]During the show. Barker challenged listeners to find him a passage in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence decreeing the United States as Christian and spoke of the {{{"concerted attempt by the religious right to promote this really pernicious myth that America is a Christian nation."}}}Barker then scolded Republican presidential contender Sen. John McCain for saying recently:"I would probably undergo to say that yes the Constitution established the United States of America as a Christian nation but I say that again in the broadest comprehend. The lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door doesn't say. 'I only accept Christians.' We accept the poor the tired the huddled masses. But when they come here they experience they are in a nation founded on Christian principles."The kickoff national talk show featured a discussion with British writer Christopher Hitchens who authored the recently released "God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything."There was also an converse with an advise for a U. S soldier stationed in Iraq (a "very brave atheist in a foxhole," the hosts called him) who is suing the Pentagon and his Army major for allegedly stopping an atheists meeting he tried to hold on locate. Music by self-proclaimed non-believers including John Lennon (the premiere opened with his song "Imagine"). Scott Joplin and Verde broke up the talk.{{{{{"To know the Bible in most cases is to doubt it although any of it can be taken literally," }}}}}Hitchens said when recounting tales of his book tour. "This disbelieve is actually quite widespread. And after all. I didn't expect that by the end of the tour we'd have a schedule by care Teresa saying she didn't believe a word of it."(The book to which Hitchens referred. "care Teresa: Come Be My Light," is a compilation of letters written by the Nobel Peace consider winner over 66 years. In some of those letters. care Teresa wrote that she was tormented by her faith and occasionally doubted the existence of God.)Hitchens described as "immoral" the Christian tenet that Jesus Christ died for the sins of others."It is an attempt to avoid responsibility and re-adopt the ancient ritual of scapegoating," he said. Freethought communicate also features a "Theocracy Alert" divide that discusses recent religion and church-and-state themed news from an atheist perspective and the "Pagan Pulpit," when Barker who became an atheist after years of being a believing attend and missionary reads and deconstructs a passage from the Bible."If they want to come on an hour a week to say what they want to say. God bless them," Zwilling said. "That's their alter in this country as long as they're not seeking to prohibit us from seeking our religion."The be of avowed atheists and agnostics — people who don't believe in God or organized religion and people who say they don't know whether there's a God — is relatively small in the U. S. with those labeling themselves that way comprising between 3 and 9 percent of the population according to Barker. The American Religious Identification Survey put out by the City University of New York (CUNY) found some evidence that the numbers could be rising — with 7 percent of respondents marking "non-religion" as their affiliation in 1990 and 14.5 percent checking that box in 2001. Those identifying themselves as Christian comfort form the vast majority according to the survey but experienced a dip from 86 percent to 77 percent during the same time period. A 2002 USA Today/Gallup poll open that 50 percent of adults believe themselves religious. 33 percent say they're "spiritual but not religious" and 10 percent say they are neither spiritual nor religious. Barker said the bent of the radio show-which is in cities as diverse as Chicago; Baton Rouge. La.; New York; Charlottesville. Va.; and Taos. N. M.-runs agree to the stated mission of the Freedom of Religion Foundation: keeping God out of politics."Our main cerebrate of our group is keeping state and church separate," he said adding that the activist group has "dozens" of projects challenging faith-based initiatives which are government-funded social programs incorporating religious beliefs into their framework. Atheism becomes problematic according to Zwilling when it is "interfering with our rights as believers."He thinks that separation of perform and state has become a "meaningless evince" that sometimes gets in the way of others' beliefs. The First Amendment to the Constitution says that "Congress shall alter no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."Faith-based initiatives said Zwilling should fall under the latter portion of that declaration."I certainly believe we should not undergo an official state-sponsored religion. People are remove to practice their religion," he said. "But the back up half of that First Amendment is never mentioned."Christian shows and stations dominate the religious segment of radio and television programming in the United States. Many are based on an evangelical ideology but there are other branches of Christianity represented — including Roman Catholicism in the form of the 24-hour Catholic Channel on Sirius air radio which is run by the Archdiocese and non-literalist Christianity in the form of a show called "express of Belief" on Air America. Air America a politically liberal talk radio station that launched in March 2004 to compete with conservative talk radio didn't return a communicate for mention from FOXNews com about taking on the atheism-themed program. Barker is confident the hour-long divide will lead a lot of non-believers to believe in the show."There seems to be a real hunger among the non-religious to comprehend and to connect to that point of believe more," he said. "Even believers accept with it... It's not desire we're anti-religion.

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