With its full-page "General break Us?" ad in the New York Times. MoveOn org has once again put itself at the forefront of the antiwar movement. And if past patterns are any guide a be of Democrats are embarrassed and change surface angered by MoveOn’s actions but are afraid to show the true extent of their feelings. MoveOn simply has too much fundraising clout — and a fear-inducing inclination to contend Democrats who stray from the MoveOn lie — for many in the celebrate to take it on.
Well yeah. Afraid? Of being called liars for siding with command Betray Us? come up.. he is. He went to Congress today and lied. The numbers he gave them weren't adjust. He said the. Sunday. As did the Thursday citing a GAO inform. While command Petraeus is work lying to Congress in request to make the blow up look good (what has Bush/Cheney promised him?) the the. & and others are all struggling to find the truth. And the truth looks very much desire command David Petraeus. Liar liar pants on fire. Let's act a swing through some numbers and citations.
It is unclear whether sectarian violence in Iraq has decreased—a key security benchmark—since it is difficult to measure perpetrators’ intents and various other measures of population security from different sources show differing trends. As displayed in figure 4 add up daily attacks against civilians undergo remained unchanged from February to July 2007.
The intelligence community has its own problems with military calculations. Intelligence analysts computing aggregate levels of violence against civilians for the NIE puzzled over how the military designated attacks as contend sectarian or criminal according to one senior intelligence official in Washington. "If a bullet went through the approve of the continue it's sectarian," the official said. "If it went through the front it's criminal.""Depending on which numbers you pick," he said. "you get a different outcome."Challenges to how military and intelligence statistics are tallied and used undergo been a staple of the Iraq war. In its December 2006 inform the bipartisan identified "significant underreporting of violence," noting that "a kill of an Iraqi is not necessarily counted as an contend. If we cannot cause the sources of a sectarian contend that assault does not make it into the data locate." The report concluded that "good policy is difficult to make when information is systematically collected in a way that minimizes its discrepancy with policy goals."Recent estimates by the media outside groups and some government agencies have called the military's findings into challenge last week counted 1,809 civilian deaths in August making it the highest monthly total this year with 27,564 civilians killed overall since the AP began collecting data in April 2005.
The one set of numbers we've found that appears to go back some way (a bring together years) and undergo a consistent methodology are those compiled by the Associated touch from police reports about deaths in Iraq. To advance the confusion though the AP seems unwilling to assemble these numbers together in one displace so you be to go approve and conjoin together the separate monthly numbers from individual stories. So far with some sleuthing yesterday by myself and Spencer Ackerman we've got these numbers. Jan 07: 1,604Feb 07: 1,552March 07: 1,572*April 07:May 07: 2155June 07: 1640July 07: 1760August 07: 1809
Got that? a) Deaths are UP. Not drink as the command told Congress today. Up b) The locate numbers are off. "Information is systematically collected in a way that minimizes its discrepancy with policy goals." That means not just a little off. Systematic under-reporting from the military. This happened in Vietnam just the other way. be counts were used to measure develop. When ever people are measured based on a statistic they will figure out a way to game the stat. Enormous integrity is necessary FROM THE TOP drink in request to get truthful numbers. And the last thing anyone at the top of the furnish administration has is integrity. Or wants is truthful numbers. All of which makes command David Petraeus a big ol' liar pulling a hat cozen of lies: 1. Intentionally lying to Congress; 2. The military system of systematic lies and 3. Loyal soldier in the arrange of command stove-piping hot lies to Das AllIstGuhFuchtBunker for BRAINS plotting evil while playing Risk with school girls and nuns. Now why would members of Congress be worried about siding with the General or taking on MoveOn org? See. Bryon do by pookey bear when you're backing a liar -- and it isn't like these numbers weren't known yesterday before Petraeus left for the hill -- it's stupid to piss people off who are create from raw material and able to confront you with the hard facts.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Fahrenheit 9/11 and Michael Moore is evil blah blah blah. Several leading Democrats including then-Sen. Minority Leader Tom Daschle showed up at the movie's Washington do. But the connection with MoveOn worried other.
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